Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Niine Movement


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The result was Speedy delete. G11-ed by DGG. (non-admin closure) &#x222F; WBG converse 11:36, 3 July 2018 (UTC)

Niine Movement

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An awareness campaign that has not yet garnered enough attention to pass WP:GNG. 2Joules (talk) 10:08, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Companies-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 10:50, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
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I want to talk about Niine Movements here, I'm not sure why it has been nominated for deletion. Maybe I did some mistake. Niine Movement is an NGO working for menstrual hygiene awareness (its not a awareness campaign, it runs campagns. If it has been misunderstood with an awareness program, it is not. Its a non profit organization working 24/7 to spread menstrual hygiene awareness which is a noble cause. This page has not been created to promote any business and its worth writing about something which is helping humanity. Mr. Akshay Kumar himself promoted its menstrual hygiene awareness program conducted by Niine Movement.

I'm even not sure if i'm writing at a right place, please guide me if it is not a right place.

Cyberking55 (talk) 11:30, 18 June 2018 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cyberking55 (talk • contribs)  — Cyberking55 (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.


 * Comment., the current article doesn't actually say why the subject is notable. Please expand it to explain that and it may have a chance of not being deleted. Accesscrawl (talk) 02:12, 19 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Organizations-related deletion discussions. North America1000 07:07, 19 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sexuality and gender-related deletion discussions. North America1000 07:08, 19 June 2018 (UTC)

, No article say why the subject is notable in the article but its the urgency and of the matter. Menstrual Hygiene is a tatoo topic in India and nobody talks about it. Somebody has to come forward and spread awareness about menstrual hygiene which is itself a very important topic for the society. Niine Movement has come forward to take the responsibility of spreading this awareness, this is a noble thing that they are doing which is appreciable and worth being on Wikipedia. Niine Movement is a non profit organization and is running several campaigns to take care of menstrual hygiene awareness. I think its the reason enough for this article to notable. I'm new here, I don't know how to create an article. May be I did some mistake in explaining my point of view but I'm not getting anything for doing this. I just thought it should be on wiki. If there is a scope of improvement in this article then let me know, I'll make that change. Thanks Cyberking55 (talk) 07:57, 20 June 2018 (UTC)


 * Pinging I was pinged to this discussion above, but have not contributed to the discussion other than providing deletion sorting. I may or may not contribute to researching this topic, so pinging you regarding the comment above, as you may have researched this topic and could expound if so. North America1000 10:30, 20 June 2018 (UTC)


 * Pinging The topic comes across as having importance and could very well be notable from various standpoints. English Wikipedia's notability standards, which can differ from standards of notability in other arenas in media, are set forth at notability guideline pages. English Wikipedia's General notability guideline is located at WP:GNG, and provides a comprehensive overview of Wikipedia's general notability standards. The provision of multiple, independent reliable sources that provide significant coverage of the topic is essentially what's required here for the article to be retained. You are allowed to provide sources in this discussion and to add sources to the article, and you can comment here all you'd like as well. North America1000 10:30, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
 * @North America I nominated the article because at present it does not have any significant coverage in reliable sources. It is a case of WP:TOOSOON in my view. The movement may gain traction in the future, and at such time an article could be created. If the user who created this wants to keep this as his draft to work one and submit when sources become available it should be done. As such I have no prejudice against userfying and will not object to a draftify outcome. 2Joules (talk) 07:45, 21 June 2018 (UTC)


 * @2Joules It does not have significant coverage in reliable sources? Really? Can you search "Niine Movement" on google? or have you checked the references I posted along with the article? If IndiaToday, HindustanTimes, TimesOfIndia, IndianExpress is not reliable sources according to you then what else is? These are the top most famous and reliable news paper portals in India and you are saying it does not have any reliable source. I don't understand your point of view. Don't just say anything here to prove your point mate, it will not take you anywhere. I have a lot of other portals as well where "NIINE MOVEMENT" is covered.

Please tell me what according to you is reliable source? Cyberking55 (talk) 10:40, 21 June 2018 (UTC)


 * @North America :@Accesscrawl :@(T) Please look at this issue on a serious note as I am unable to argue with 2Joules. His points sounds illogical to me, He just said this article does not have any significant coverage in reliable sources. I don't know what reliable sources he is talking about, because I have posted reference from all the top news portals from India i.e. IndiaToday, HindustanTimes, TimesOfIndia, IndianExpress and I have more, I can post that too but I don't know what will be considered as reliable source. Need help in this issue please.

Thanks Cyberking55 (talk) 10:40, 21 June 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete None of the strong references is about niine movement itself except Newsgram which isn't a reliable site. Accesscrawl (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 11:03, 21 June 2018 (UTC)

@North America @Accesscrawl @CAPTAIN RAJU @2Joules Do you consider IMDB, NDTV, IndiaTimes (Timesofindia), Hindustantimes, ZeeNews a reliable source? Here are the articles that has been published in the below portals about niine movement.
 * https://www.imdb.com/news/ni62041521
 * https://swachhindia.ndtv.com/reel-life-padman-akshay-kumar-starts-new-campaign-menstrual-hygiene-urges-people-bridge-gap-18to82-19664/
 * https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/hindi/bollywood/news/akshay-kumar-change-can-be-implemented-only-once-we-initiate-discussions/articleshow/64300733.cms
 * https://www.hindustantimes.com/bollywood/akshay-kumar-lends-support-to-new-campaign-on-menstrual-hygiene/story-gjLbgbDu9okm6GgZqU34GN.html
 * http://zeenews.india.com/people/akshay-kumar-lends-support-to-new-campaign-on-menstrual-hygiene-2106796.html
 * https://m.dailyhunt.in/news/india/english/bollywood+hungama+english-epaper-blhuen/akshay+kumar+lends+his+support+to+18to82+campaign+under+niine+movement-newsid-87553262
 * https://www.newsgram.com/akshay-kumar-lends-support-niine-movement/
 * http://www.freepressjournal.in/bollywood/pad-man-akshay-kumar-supports-new-campaign-on-menstrual-hygiene/1274132
 * http://www.expressbpd.com/healthcare/happening-now/akshay-kumar-lends-support-to-18to82-campaign-under-niine-movement/401079/
 * http://www.bollywoodhungama.com/news/bollywood/akshay-kumar-lends-support-18to82-campaign-niine-movement/
 * https://www.firstpost.com/living/menstrual-awareness-conclave-to-be-held-in-delhi-to-address-stigma-around-periods-discuss-sustainable-solutions-4483613.html
 * http://english.samajalive.in/odia-tribal-girl-sets-example-in-menstrual-awareness/
 * https://businesswireindia.com/news/fulldetails/social-entrepreneurs-amar-payal-tulsiyan-co-founders-menstrual-hygiene-awareness-initiative-niine-movement-receive-partners-health-award-at-fogsi-international-womens-health-summit/58515
 * http://pebbleinthestillwaters.com/world-menstrual-hygiene-day/
 * http://filmysansaar.com/blog/megastar-akshay-kumar-national-change-makers-tackle-period-taboos/
 * http://www.thehansindia.com/posts/index/Womenia/2018-05-30/Stars-champion-the-hygiene-cause-/385211
 * http://www.bollyy.com/akshay-kumar-lends-his-support-to-18to82-campaign-under-niine-movement/
 * https://unsungbollywood.com/akshay-kumar-shabana-azmi-and-pad-heroes-to-tackle-period-taboos-at-niine-menstrual-awareness-conclave/
 * https://www.globalvillagespace.com/tag/niine-movement/
 * https://marcommnews.com/akshay-kumar-lends-his-support-to-18to82-campaign-under-niine-movement/
 * https://www.peepingmoon.com/news/entertainment-news/the-padman-returns-akshay-kumar-promotes-18to82-campaign-68896/
 * http://kalingatv.com/latestnews/odia-girl-geetanjali-marandi-wins-national-level-debate-competition-on-menstrual-awareness/
 * https://www.bollywoodmantra.com/album/the-niine-movements-menstrual-awareness-conclave/
 * https://www.sunriseradio.fm/news/showbiz/akshay-kumar-lends-his-support-to-18to82-campaign-under-niine-movement/
 * http://www.indianshowbiz.com/?p=166057
 * https://www.ommcomnews.com/public/niine-movement-launched-to-mark-menstrual-hygiene-day?niine-movement-launched-to-mark-menstrual-hygiene-day
 * https://www.latestly.com/topic/niine-movement/
 * http://www.ake.news/2018/05/29/social-innovations/indias-padman-akshay-kumar-come-forward-to-tackle-period-taboos-ninne-movement-106/
 * https://newselleven.com/2018/06/05/social-entrepreneurs-amar-and-payal-tulsiyan-receive-awards-at-fogsi-international-womens-health-summit/
 * http://www.infodea.in/niine-movements-menstrual-awareness-conclave/
 * https://www.nonwovens-industry.com/contents/view_videos/2018-05-14/niine-movement-seeks-to-normalize-periods-in-india

I also have cuttings of paper copies of newspapers, I can upload that too if Wikipedia allows.

Waiting for your answers. Thanks. Cyberking55 (talk) 15:58, 21 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete: Does not meet WP:NORG; significant RS coverage not found. Sources listed above are passing mentions and / or WP:SPIP. Just a WP:ADVOCACY page for a nn topic. K.e.coffman (talk) 01:27, 23 June 2018 (UTC)

K.e.coffman Please elaborate, please don't just leave one liner as it doesn't help. If you want to improve wikipedia then you should explain why you think an article should be taken down. I have provided 20+ URLs few of them are very reliable sources still you think it not significant RS coverage? Why? Do you even understand the urgency of this topic on wikipedia? Do you even understand the value of the awareness program this Non-Profit organization is spreading. Menstrual Hygiene is one of the biggest Taboo in India. Nobody talks about it, Niine Movement has come forward to spread awareness about this which is a noble cause. Its worth being on Wikipedia on human grounds. Indian actor Akshay Kumar, who’s most recent award-winning film Pad Man, tackled the issue of menstrual taboo, recently began his support of the Niine Movement with the launch of the nationwide campaign #18to82 to bridge the gap between the minority that are able to adopt hygienic practices and the large majority who are not able to make an informed choice in these matters.

Please also tell me which part you didn't understand and which source you think is not reliable. You don't say IMDB, NDTV, ZeeNews, timesofindia, hindustantimes, bollywoodhungama is not reliable sources. If you think these sources are not reliable then what sources you think are reliable? You can't just blindly say that significant RS coverage not found without doing research on the topic. Read the topic carefully, read the sources I've posted above very carefully before coming to a judgement. Your ignorant comment can lead a valuable article be deleted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cyberking55 (talk • contribs) 12:09, 25 June 2018 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Yunshui 雲 水 13:10, 25 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep. The article should be tagged perhaps with specific requests for development, but there is significant coverage and notability should no longer be questioned.  Taking just one, this India Times article, an Entertainment section article, provides substantial coverage/mention.  Sure this and many other sources are promotional about the purpose of the organization but this is still coverage and the promotion is by the publishing newspapers, etc.  If independent newspapers are providing promotional-type coverage about the health care issue, well good for them.  It is not promotion of the bad kind, i.e. in selling a product for profit.  And yes, off-line sources can be used in the article and to support notability.  We can cite books and other sources that are not on the internet.  I don't think uploading photos of a bunch more sources is needed for this AFD. --Doncram (talk) 02:04, 29 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep. The Times of India article mentioned above is definite evidence of notability. *Multiple* such sources are required for notability, but it seems likely they exist and overall I agree with User:Doncram.Twitchymeatbag (talk) 03:21, 2 July 2018 (UTC) — Twitchymeatbag (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * I contest this tag. At the very least I would like whoever added this tag to my post to have the decency to sign it. Twitchymeatbag (talk) 02:35, 3 July 2018 (UTC)


 * Strong Delete This is flagrant advocacy/promotion. Notability is irrelevant, as long as the article is in its current form it cannot be kept. Wikipedia is not a platform for promotion of any kind and this is so naked I am tagging it for speedy deletion. WP:NOPROMO is policy. -Ad Orientem (talk) 01:26, 3 July 2018 (UTC)


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