Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nikki McKibbin


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. per WP:SNOW and nobody aside from the nominator supporting deletion JForget  23:07, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Nikki McKibbin

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Delete. After Articles for deletion/Alexis Grace (2nd nomination) saw a “delete” outcome, I feel that the time has come to determine which of the American Idol contestants truly deserve their own articles. This fails WP:MUSIC and WP:BIO. WP:NOTINHERITED tells us that just because somebody appeared on American Idol, it doesn’t make them notable and worthy of an article. The article says that McKibbin release one (non-charting) album and several singles (again, all non-charting), therefore failing the previous 2 guidelines. DJ 07:47, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep. Coming in third place is (barely) good enough for me to pass WP:BIO.  young  american  (wtf?) 11:48, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
 * The position they came in the competition doesn't matter and does not mean that they pass WP:BIO. DJ 12:24, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Our point of disagreement is what this debate will decide and hopefully lead to a community consensus.  young  american  (wtf?) 13:17, 28 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep, a look at the Google News graph shows that she has stayed in the news for seven straight years. Since journalists are interested in following her "career" since AI, we cannot delete her just because she got her start on an appallingly low brow TV show. Abductive (talk) 20:54, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep Not only did Nikki place third in a major national compeition but as it has been pointed out despite her limited success she has kept herself in the news. Also after appearing on Celebrity Rehab and Sober House this last year there seems to be more interest in her career as of latetly. Stormiya

This sort of mass nomination is unproductive because it leads to people voting based on "I like it"/"I don't like it" since no one can reasonably be expected to properly research 38 articles of the same nature in a week. (Indeed this has already begun to happen.) Since the results of these AfDs are likely to be influenced by voting rather than a proper discussion, they should all be closed with no prejudice against reopening a few at a time after a good faith attempt to determine notability has been made. --ThaddeusB (talk) 22:50, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Speedy close as a (unintentionally) disruptive nomination. The nominator rapid fire nominated 38 American Idol contestants all with the same (invalid) rationale that Alexis Grace (who finished 11th and hasn't had a chance to do anything post Idol yet) was deleted.  It is quite clear that he/she made no attempt to research any of the nominations as several quite clearly meet multiple inclusion criteria.  Some of these articles should be kept, and others merged, but none should be deleted.  All arguably meet WP:MUSIC #9: "Has won or placed in a major music competition" by virtue of making the finals of American Idol and the less notable ones should at least be merged with their respective American Idol season X pages.


 * Speedy close per ThaddeusB. Jeni  ( talk ) 00:15, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Speedy close per ThaddeusB. Crafty (talk) 01:56, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Speedy close per WikiProject Idol series; the Alexis Grace deletion was improper per that guideline, and this one is even more so. --RBBrittain (talk) 02:13, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Wikiproject guidelines have no weight here. Abductive (talk) 02:52, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep, and I'll even give actual policy-based reasons that carries some weight! Participation on a notable compilation album (WP:MUSICBIO criteria 10), also, as noted above, sustained and significant coverage in reliable sources. Lara  19:44, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep - Subject has appeared in other shows beyond American Idol, including Celebrity Rehab. --AStanhope (talk) 22:19, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.