Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Niko De Vera


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The result was delete. ‑Scottywong | gossip _ 06:16, 29 January 2018 (UTC)

Niko De Vera

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Recreation of an article previously deleted by PROD. Concern was Article about a footballer who fails WP:GNG and who has not played in a fully pro league. This remains valid. Sir Sputnik (talk) 14:13, 21 January 2018 (UTC)
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 * Delete - fails WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL. GiantSnowman 16:22, 21 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep - meets WP:NCOLLATH and WP:GNG. Subject of notable national awards, GNG topic including one of the less than 1% of college soccer athletes to get drafted and goes beyond WP:ROUTINE coverage. Only mild concern might be WP:TOOSOON and WP:CRYSTAL, but I think the NCOLLATH topics absolve that. Cobyan02069 (talk) 03:42, 22 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Move to draft space, De Vera only partially meets WP:NCOLLATH, since he was drafted, but albeit very late in the draft, which often doesn't merit a player going to play professional minutes and therefore is probably routine coverage,. De Vera probably will, but not for a few months with a USL, and that's an if. But to not waste the time of the creator or the admins, it'll be easier to keep a draft, and if/when he plays a professional match move to article space and then blank the draft. Quidster4040 (talk) 05:05, 22 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete - Fails NFOOTY as has not played or managed senior international football nor played or managed in a fully professional league. No indication of any collage award to satisfy NCOLLATH. No indication that subject has garnered significant reliable coverage for any other achievements to satisfy either NHSPHSATH or wider GNG.  can one of you help clarify what element of NCOLLATH he passes? I don't see anything there that indicates being drafted is in itself sufficient for notability, plus, at this stage in his career it would seem to be WP:BLP1E to me. Am I missing something? Fenix down (talk) 12:03, 22 January 2018 (UTC)
 * I put that he partially could meet NCOLLATH, because he was named to the All-MAC First Team and All-United Soccer Coaches Midwest Regional teams, which I think is still in the grey area of notability. Had he won MAC Player of the Year, or was named an All-American, which generates WP:SIGCOV from tertiary and secondary sources, I would then think he would entirely meet NCOLLATH. However, his honors usually only trigger primary sources from the athletics website and the conference website. However, there might be some secondary and third party sources that cover his accomplishments to date, making me think he might meet NCOLLATH. I also say move to draft space, because I think being drafted past the second round of the MLS SuperDraft does not normally merit a professional contract, and often only results in primary sources covering him being drafted, such as the MLS team's website or the respective college athletics website. Normally, when a player is drafted in the first or second round, it garners enough media attention, to me, to meet GNG and go beyond ROUTINE coverage. I usually see routine coverage as the MLS team's website and the college athletics website covering the player in mind being drafted. So that being said, I'm unsure if De Vera meets NCOLLATH entirely, or GNG. However, I say move to the draft space, since he could in the future be notable, and this is just a WP:TOOSOON article. Quidster4040 (talk) 17:29, 22 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete – Fails WP:NFOOTBALL, and despite claims that the subject meets WP:GNG, nobody has added any sources to the article that are not WP:ROUTINE or WP:PRIMARY to demonstrate this is the case. I'm not convinced his success in being drafted is enough to meet WP:NCOLLATH either. Jellyman (talk) 13:09, 22 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete I really can't see any indication of him meeting GNG or passing the basics of NFooty. Govvy (talk) 13:10, 23 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment I went ahead and userfied the article, since it might not be ready for its own article, but might meet GNG with full consensus in the future. This way we won't have to waste additional time recreating the article again if a delete consensus is reached. The article can be found here Quidster4040 (talk) 00:12, 28 January 2018 (UTC)


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