Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nikola Tsolov


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Modussiccandi (talk) 08:09, 26 May 2022 (UTC)

Nikola Tsolov

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I believe the article meet the WP:N criteria, due to the significant coverage from Bulgarian media about the driver. I would add more sources if needed, but I believe the current ones were enough to cover the article.Chris Calvin (talk) 10:36, 2 May 2022 (UTC) — Note to closing admin: Chris Calvin (talk • contribs) is the creator of the page that is the subject of this AfD.


 * Draftify - He is currently not in a high enough category in motorsport to meet WP:NSPORT, but within a couple of years he likely will be.User:DRYT.Motorsport (talk) 12:55, 2 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment - Considering his achievements in karting alone, he clearly meets the criteria, there are hundreds of less talented people in sports or in the arts who are covered in Wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by IntelligereOmnia (talk • contribs) 13:20, 2 May 2022 (UTC)
 * He absolutely does not. His karting career is not particularly unique or impressive, and it certainly doesn't carry any inherent notability. 5225C (talk &bull; contributions) 02:28, 3 May 2022 (UTC)


 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bulgaria-related deletion discussions. Jovanmilic97 (talk) 17:32, 2 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Motorsport-related deletion discussions. Jovanmilic97 (talk) 17:32, 2 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep I found some good sources in Trud (Bulgarian newspaper), bg:Fakti.bg , few sentences + quotations in Bulgaria Dnes and Bulgarian National Radio , was featured on Nova (Bulgarian TV channel) , bTV (Bulgaria) , Bulgarian National Television . Enough to meet WP:GNG, which requires multiple significant coverage in independent reliable sources. Jovanmilic97 (talk) 17:56, 2 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Most of these seem quite routine. I'm not familiar enough with Bulgarian sources to consider their reliability or reach, but I would be hesitant to say all of these are signficant. Formula Scout especially, in AfD discussions on junior drivers we tend not to place much weight on their work because of the niche nature of the publication. 5225C (talk &bull; contributions) 02:25, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
 * I'm struggling to see how most of these are routine (and if we throw out Formula Scout out of the equation for being "niche"). Like WP:ROUTINE says, "routine news coverage of such things as announcements are not sufficient basis for an article.". None of them are and I specifically avoided those in my searches, as there's lots of copy-paste article about his F4 signing to Campos + his F4 win/race reports. Jovanmilic97 (talk) 07:08, 3 May 2022 (UTC)


 * Comment - Why are you nominating an article that you created yourself? Your rationale sounds more like an argument towards keep than towards deletion. MSport1005 (talk) 20:33, 2 May 2022 (UTC)
 * A bizarre situation, but the one who initated this AFD is actually DRTY.Motorsport who put the AFD template on onto the article but left the nomination page blank . The creator/Chris Calvin mistakenly stepped in and created the nomination page defending the article. Their comments should be watched over in reverse by the closing admin. Jovanmilic97 (talk) 20:41, 2 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Yeah I’m sorry that I added the template and didn’t create the page, I had a sudden real-life commitment whilst creating the discussion page and when I came back to this the page had been created, I apologise for this. DRYT.Motorsport (talk) 21:02, 2 May 2022 UTC
 * In the future you can use Twinkle to do it automatically. - "Ghost of  Dan Gurney"  12:17, 3 May 2022 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗  plicit  11:39, 9 May 2022 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Star   Mississippi  02:18, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment – I won't cast a vote because I'm unsure how to consider Jovanmilic97's sources, but if set those aside this would be a fairly routine delete !vote. F4 drivers don't really have a credible claim to significance and the sourcing as it stands is very lacklustre. I will take another look when I have more time. 5225C (talk &bull; contributions) 02:25, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Keep - I'm very sceptical with all the F4 driver articles being created over the last few weeks, but looking at the sources provided by Jovanmilic97 I'm leaning towards keep on the grounds of WP:GNG. He obviously does not meet WP:NMOTORSPORT yet, although his status as an Alpine affiliate and Alonso protégé seems to have put him well within the spotlight recently. Contrary to what 5225C said, Tsolov was a beast in karting and his WP:POTENTIAL to meet NMOTORSPORT in the near future is big. MSport1005 (talk) 11:28, 19 May 2022 (UTC)
 * It's not just F4 where this is a problem, but on the NASCAR side as well; a lot of recent creations of lower-ladder drivers which aren't very good. - "Ghost of  Dan Gurney"  17:43, 19 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Oh yes, I have noticed an increase in the number of Nascar AfD's lately... Don't really have a firm opinion in that sense though as I don't follow Nascar. MSport1005 (talk) 09:53, 20 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Strong keep. The English references seem to be mostly WP:ROUTINE, but the Bulgarian news sources seem to cover him in a more direct manner. I believe that his coverage in multiple different Bulgarian news sources that are seemingly not affiliated with motorsport is enough to be WP:SIGCOV. Additionally, since he is so young, there is no doubt of potential. If he happens to fizzle out, this discussion could maybe be revisited.  ~XyNq tc 17:31, 24 May 2022 (UTC)


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