Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nintendo DS homebrew


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont)  11:45, 5 March 2018 (UTC)

Nintendo DS homebrew

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The majority of the article is WP:OR guide about how to get flash cartridges working. I searched for sources, but most of the pertinent articles have long since disappeared from the Internet entirely. It's possible someone who takes a deep dive into the Internet Archive might be able to make a notable article, but what's here right now might require WP:TNT. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 14:39, 10 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Software-related deletion discussions. North America1000 17:50, 10 February 2018 (UTC)
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*Keep This is a real and very relevant part of early electronic gaming culture. This is arguably one of the foundations of computer security and digital piracy. You should fix any issues with it rather than deleting it, to which I say that WP:TNTTNT is the correct essay for this situation. Pokemonsgone (talk) 10:13, 11 February 2018 (UTC) globally locked LTA. CHRISSY MAD ❯❯❯  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯  14:53, 11 February 2018 (UTC)
 * The problem with that argument is that there is already a "hacking and homebrew" section in the Nintendo DS article (although it might be better off moved to Nintendo DS family) which can accommodate the sources that actually exist. There is no need for an entire separate article. At least, no need that has been proven as of yet.ZXCVBNM (TALK) 10:59, 11 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Ok that's fine, but it would be easier for someone to source an existing article than to build a new one from scratch. My preference would be to keep at least the history, that can be best done by keeping the article as a redirect, so maybe a redirect like:  would be a good way to deal with it, especially as this is a valid search term. Pokemonsgone (talk) 11:55, 11 February 2018 (UTC)  globally locked LTA.  CHRISSY MAD  ❯❯❯  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯  14:53, 11 February 2018 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 06:45, 17 February 2018 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep, per the wording of the nomination, it doesn't say that the article is not notable, only that most sources that report on it have disappeared (linkrot) ,v and re-wording the article is something most people can do so this seems more like a case of "this article is encyclopedic but I personally don't want to put the effort in it". --Donald Trung (No fake news) (Articles) Respect mobile users, sign a petition to allow me to use emoji's in my signature. 09:57, 17 February 2018 (UTC)
 * You're right in that I don't have time to put the effort into it, but I don't see how that makes the current page any more encyclopedic and worthy of keeping. Especially since there is already a section on it elsewhere where one could put any sourced material, there is no need to have a full unreferenced article for it.ZXCVBNM (TALK) 23:47, 17 February 2018 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Spartaz Humbug! 00:29, 25 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete - Looking at the article's citations via archive.org, I found that none of them are suitable for establishing notability. They're all primary links to source repositories, wikis, or blog posts, all of which fail WP:GNG. FlotillaFlotsam (talk) 04:25, 25 February 2018 (UTC)
 * There's quite a few sources on DS homebrew in the VG search engine. What's in the article is currently garbage, I agree, but I think the topic might be notable. --Izno (talk) 16:18, 4 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Video games-related deletion discussions. Izno (talk) 22:41, 4 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Keep per the sources present in the CSE. Sure, the current article is a piece of crap, if someone blows it up and starts over, it could actually become a good-looking article. I mean, look at GameCube online functionality just a few months ago, compared to now. JOE BRO  64  22:57, 4 March 2018 (UTC)


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