Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nintendo presents: New Style Boutique 3 – Styling Star


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was speedy delete. Speedy deleted by RHaworth, CSD G7: One author who has requested deletion or blanked the page. Malcolmxl5 (talk) 01:30, 27 September 2017 (UTC)

Nintendo presents: New Style Boutique 3 – Styling Star

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No idea why this was accepted through AfC, it fails WP:GNG. Non-notable video game, or at least WP:TOOSOON. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 08:21, 23 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Video games-related deletion discussions. Mark the trainDiscuss 08:32, 23 September 2017 (UTC)


 * While it has been covered by a bunch of RSs (Nintendo Life, Famitsu, Destructoid, Gematsu), the depth of the coverage is not much more than "It has been announced for Europe and Japan and is coming in November". I imagine this will get more coverage as the release date comes closer, but for now it does not seem to meet the GNG. There isn't a series article, so I would suggest that we redirect to the article on the first game.--IDVtalk 08:33, 23 September 2017 (UTC)
 * The correct article name would be Nintendo Presents: New Style Boutique 3 – Styling Star and most likely due to WP:COMMONNAME it would be shortened to New Style Boutique 3 – Styling Star. The current title's unsuitable for a redirect.ZXCVBNM (TALK) 10:25, 23 September 2017 (UTC)
 * The correct title of the game is Nintendo presents: New Style Boutique 3 – Styling Star, and thus the article name should at least not be Nintendo Presents: New Style Boutique 3 – Styling Star. If it's a non-notable video game, then all the games should maybe be put into a single article as the same would also apply to the previous three titles. Obviously, with the games all selling more than 500,000 units worldwide it's the question whether they are really non-notable.DanielFreed (TALK) 12:56, 23 September 2017 (UTC)
 * It doesn't matter if it sold 10 billion units, that's just citing WP:BIGNUMBER as criteria for notability. It also needs to satisfy criteria of WP:SUSTAINED, which is pretty rare for upcoming games. In any case, no matter how it's capitalized, IMO naming guidelines would tell you to cut out the "Nintendo presents" as it's not how it would be referred to by anyone besides official reviews/marketing material, and is unnecessary for distinguishing the game.ZXCVBNM (TALK) 11:51, 23 September 2017 (UTC)
 * That was just in response to you saying the correct name would be Nintendo Presents: New Style Boutique 3 – Styling Star instead of Nintendo presents: New Style Boutique 3 – Styling Star. Also, would you suggest to put the entire series into a single article instead then as the same issues you name are also true for Nintendo presents: New Style Boutique and Nintendo presents: New Style Boutique 2. One may argue that the individual titles aren't relevant enough, but as a series they definitely are. So what do you think, any suggestions? The existence and release of this game should definitely be documented on Wikipedia in one way or another.DanielFreed (TALK) 14:11, 23 September 2017 (UTC)


 * On Wikipedia, notability is determined through looking at coverage of a subject in sources we consider reliable (so typically magazines, books, websites with dedicated staff, but not blogs and fansites; for a list of reliable video game sources, see WP:VGRS); to meet the "general notability guideline", a subject needs to have in-depth coverage in multiple sources. Previous games in the Style Savvy/New Style Boutique series have been reviewed by reliable sources, so they are fine. This one does not yet have enough in-depth coverage, just short "the game will be released in November" type articles, so it's just too early to write an article for it at this point. Since there isn't a Style Savvy series article, you could create a "sequels" section in the first game's article and write about the game there for now.--IDVtalk 12:22, 23 September 2017 (UTC)
 * So basically in two months a separate article would make sense as reviews and a Metacritic score would appear? The coverage will not be too different from Nintendo Presents: New Style Boutique 2, as the games aren't quite aiming for the audience that frequents typical gaming outlets and thus won't receive the coverage of a Mario Odyssey. So it's merely an issue of "too soon" than "not notable" in your eyes?DanielFreed (TALK) 14:33, 23 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Yes - "non-notable" only means there isn't enough coverage right now. Once you have a bunch of reviews, or other in-depth coverage (like developer interviews, preview impressions, etc) you can create an article.--IDVtalk 12:45, 23 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Move to draft and wait for more sources, per the above comments. ~ Dissident93  ( talk ) 23:00, 23 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Draftify for now per IDV et al. --Izno (talk) 13:10, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
 * On the topic of the name, it should probably be New Style Boutique 3 – Styling Star per WP:CONCISE. For the draft version, that's Draft:New Style Boutique 3 – Styling Star. --Izno (talk) 13:12, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Agreed, for now. If an American release is announced, though, it should be moved to that title, to be consistent with the other games' articles.--IDVtalk 13:42, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Actually, going to change my !vote. This should be merged and redirected to its prequel at Style Savvy: Fashion Forward under a "Sequel" section until such time as the video game is reviewed. --Izno (talk) 16:44, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Draftify - for now. There might be enough to muster up an okay stub, but the article creator certainly didn't do that here. Move to draft space until someone writes an actual article, with actual WP:VG/S type sources. Sergecross73   msg me  15:43, 25 September 2017 (UTC)

Please delete it now, the discussion has pretty much ended with a uniform decision. DanielFreed (TALK) 15:36, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
 * These things usually run for 7 days unless things get really lopsided and these close it per WP:SNOW, FYI. Sergecross73   msg me  14:38, 26 September 2017 (UTC)


 * I see little reason to continue the discussion though as the points made are all valid and a further discussion won't add anything to that. Even if new points are raised, the article would need to be moved over to the shorter title without "Nintendo presents:". Therefore I blanked the page in good faith and listed the article for speedy deletion under CSD G7.DanielFreed (TALK) 17:14, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
 * That seems... like an overeaction, as most people so far didn't want to delete it, but rather, either redirect the article, or keep it as a rough draft until it meets the notability requirements. But there's very little there, so I guess there wouldn't be much to recreate should the time come either. Sergecross73   msg me  16:17, 26 September 2017 (UTC)


 * It mainly contained the release, developer and name information, just like the Wikipedia page of the prequel. If anyone wants to create a page for the game after release, it should be possible. DanielFreed (TALK) 19:56, 26 September 2017 (UTC)


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