Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nintendocore (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was} keep. --jam es (talk) 13:20, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

Nintendocore
The term itself, while not a neologism, is not a real genre. It was a joke coined by the members of HORSE the Band during an interview to describe the sound of their album "The Mechanical Hand". The band themselves object to the use of the term as a genre. And even if that isn't enough, no other bands have adopted the term nor has it been properly used as a genre. A look on google will demonstrate that most hits are either tags on last.fm, which don't qualify as genres or as a reliable source for that matter, Wikipedia and many usernames. There isn't a reliable source, an article or anything that describes "Nintendocore" as a real genre nor that it actually links the bands named in this article to it. Its unsourced, unverifiable and pretty much taken out of context. Also, it's beyond me why the article is still on wikipedia, because it had already been nominated for deletion and the decision was "deleted". That discussion is here: Articles for deletion/Nintendocore -- Clementduval 02:49, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Eligible for speedy but weak keep as usage seems wider than in the previous AFD. LA Times, Harvard Crimson. --Dhartung | Talk 06:03, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Speedy Keep Is completely verifiable. Add above sources and you've got yourself a stub.  will381796 06:29, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
 * weak keep dear God, it actually is being used. On the plus side--at least it doesn't link to Nintendo-porn 205.157.110.11 07:08, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Technically, this is a speedy deletion candidate, as the content is largely identical to the content deleted as a result of the prior AFD discussion. I don't speak for other administrators, but my decision is not to speedily delete it, because of the articles cited by Dhartung above, both of which were published after the prior AFD discussion.  Whether there are now sources, that address the original research and verifiability issues raised in the prior AFD discussion, needs a full discussion. Uncle G 12:59, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Neutral On one hand, it's received several mentions in reputable print sources. On the other, it's still a very new neologism (all sources found are December 2005 and later), and it also seems that only one band actually created and used the term to describe themselves, and it's being appropriated to describe over similar bands that may or may not want anything to do with the title. It still holds a very niche status. This also doesn't deserve a speedy deletion since real world circumstances have changed. But, I'm not really sure about whether the article should stay. --SevereTireDamage 14:22, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Let us not forget that the band that created the term, did so as a joke in an interview. And actually doesn't describe themselves as such. This "genre" is nothing more than an inside-joke that got kinda big. But anyhow, if the article is kept, I guess it sort of needs a full re-write & mention of its real status and use, instead of making it seem like a real "genre". However, I guess that'd also be hard without original research. --Clementduval 20:49, 19 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Keep. This genre of music is very widespread and noticable within the gaming world. guitarhero777777 15:45, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been added to the list of CVG deletions. SevereTireDamage 14:22, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep.It's a smal genre, yes, but it exists. Bands have been mixing hardcore with video game music since the late 90's. only the word is new
 * Keep per above. Havok (T/C/c) 11:46, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Weak keep Yes it's a neologism that was coined as a joke, but it seems to have gained some currency. Ace of Sevens 18:30, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep and expand this is genuine, and can be verified. but this is severely lacking of information and seems to be more of a band listing then an article on the genere
 * Speedy Keep-  per above.--Peephole 13:20, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep. The article appears to have been deleted last time due to lack of verifiability, the L.A. Times, Harvard Crimson, and other print sources appear to have resolved that.  RFerreira 21:40, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.