Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/NioGold Mining Corporation


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The result was   delete. L Faraone  13:15, 26 April 2013 (UTC)

NioGold Mining Corporation

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spam from Voidz. non notable company, lacks coverage in independent reliable sources. mix pr, primary and listings. I found nothing past run of the mill reports fort stockmarkets, no substantial independent coverage. duffbeerforme (talk) 13:52, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
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 * Delete per nom. --Nat Gertler (talk) 16:42, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

http://www.24hgold.com/english/news-company-gold-silver-the-gold-report-jay-taylor-updates-niogold-mining-tsx-v-nox-.aspx?articleid=542567
 * Comment: I've found a few quite notable sources in the industry that have given specific coverage towards the company including The Globe and Mail, Cambridge House International, The Gold Report, Journalist Jay Taylor, owner of Ahead of the Herd Rick Mills, Metal News and 24Hour Gold. I feel that though the company may not be notable world wide, it is quite well known in its industry. In Vancouver and Quebec, Canada especially is where the company gets its third party coverage. Would it help if I were to add all of the references listed above into the page? I'm really not trying to add spam, please let me know if there's anything I can do! — Preceding unsigned comment added by KevinSpiro (talk • contribs) 17:19, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete - Standard fare sourcing for a spam article. Having your company name simply mentioned in a list of business or government document isn't the same as establishing notability.  Dennis Brown - 2¢  © Join WER 17:24, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete - This is a spam article, started by an editor for hire, sockpuppet account. All the news sources are press releases. Joja  lozzo  19:16, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment: Not sure if I can put links here but here are the links to these sources, as you can see it is not simply mentioned in a list, but are actually getting coverage:

http://www.metalsnews.com/Metals+News/MetalsNews/Dr.+Allen+Alper/FEATURED727135/NioGold+Mining+Corporation+(TSXV+NOX)+Expands+Gold+Resources+in+Historic+Val+dOr+Region+of+Abitibi+Gold+Belt+in+Cana.htm

http://www.theaureport.com/pub/na/10051

http://www.theaureport.com/pub/video/393 — Preceding unsigned comment added by KevinSpiro (talk • contribs) 21:31, 18 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Such stock pumping web sites do not vouch for any of the information they publish and they often include advice by people who hold positions in the stocks. I don't think these sites confer any more notability than that small amount already provided by being listed on an exchange. And don't you think it's time you gave public notice of your relationship with the company? Joja  lozzo  01:21, 19 April 2013 (UTC)

*Comment: I don't feel they are stock pumping web sites as you don't pay to get coverage on them, they come to you if they feel you have a good story. But in the end it's up to you guys on the fate of this page! My relationship with the company is that I recently have been getting interested in junior mining and exploration companies, living in one of the biggest mining hubs of the world (Vancouver, BC) we're surrounding by mining companies, Howe Street is famous for it in the industry. I've started to realize that mining is extremely important as almost everything we own is a product of mining at some stage of development. I noticed that there were a number of companies that extract the minerals such as Kinross Gold, Barrick Gold, and Newmont Mining Corporation on wikipedia, but hardly any of the companies that actually find the land (exploration and development) that then gets sold to these extraction companies. I then took it upon myself to create some pages for (what I thought) were notable junior exploration companies. — Preceding unsigned comment added by KevinSpiro (talk • contribs) 16:16, 19 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Aren't you the Kevin Spiro who is the account manager for the marketing and promotions company, Viral Network, "that specializes in:Social Media (Facebook, Twitter, Linkedin, Google+, Youtube and more), Online advertising, SEO, Video Production and Email Marketing for Public Companies" and who has NioGold Mining as a client? [my emphasis] Joja  lozzo  18:05, 19 April 2013 (UTC)
 * LMAO Good catch, Jojalozza. YuMaNuMa Contrib 12:32, 20 April 2013 (UTC)

*Comment Yes, they are a client of the company I work for though I'm not creating the page for them because they're a client. I work in a field that I am passionate about and I plan on making these pages for a number of notable companies in the junior exploration and development space, regardless of if I have a work connection with that company or not. — Preceding unsigned comment added by KevinSpiro (talk • contribs) 16:38, 22 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete It's too promotional. cf: "NioGold’s experienced and qualified technical team are overseeing the advancement of these projects, with current drill programs underway targeting expansion of the resource base." ;   "NioGold also plans on continuing to drill on the Siscoe East property, this property lies on-trend between two of the highest-grade past producers in the area; the Sullivan and Siscoe mines with total production of nearly 2M oz gold."  overemphasis on details of the financing ;  dependence upon the notability of the general area where it works, It's  nonetheless a somewhat notable firm based on the sources, and an article might be possible.  KevinSpiro, it will be a good idea to make further  articles through the AfC process. It's not policy that it be necessary, but it will help remove the inappropriate material before it gets to mainspace. It can be difficult to work in a field that one is passionate about without losing a sense of proportion, and you've gotten very close to the line. I am one of the relatively few people here willing to supporting editing by those as involved as you are, but it has to lead to a more encyclopedic  quality than this.  DGG ( talk ) 04:16, 24 April 2013 (UTC)

*Comment DGG, that makes sense I see the bias in the wording. I understand if this page should be deleted, alternatively I'd be more than happy to go through and change the wording to what you would see in an encyclopaedia. I can remove the financing details as well, and put in what would would see on a balance sheet instead (or just remove the section entirely) as I believe it would be much more unbiased as you can see from the table on the top right their net income is actually in the negative! I'll refrain from any sort of bias or 'promotion' in any further articles (if allowed to create them). And I'll be sure to create any additional articles though the AfC process as well. Nevertheless, thank you for your support on this topic and supporting passionate writers in wikipedia :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by KevinSpiro (talk • contribs) 20:04, 24 April 2013 (UTC)
 * My view about financials is that well-sourced statements of income and capitalization are useful indications of the size of a business concern, and if over a period can show growth--or the lack of it; details about who exactly provided the money is usually unnecessary, unless the result was to purchase or gain a controlling interest in the company.  DGG ( talk ) 21:41, 25 April 2013 (UTC)
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