Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nipple-Touch Mini


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result of the debate wasDelete Karmafist 05:33, 27 October 2005 (UTC) See this afd's talk page for explanation

Nipple-Touch Mini
A weird and presumably sexual "car game"; the phrase gets no google hits. Nonverifiable. -- Creidieki 02:18, 18 October 2005 (UTC) Keep. I recognise that it's a silly premise. Yes, I had a hard time writing the article because it is indeed goofy, and yes, the Google test comes up negative (which is actually the reason I decided to write this article; why hadn't anyone before me?). Please give it a chance, or, if you've heard of it, please vouch for it to keep the article alive. --Dana 02:53, 18 October 2005 (UTC) I'm from Massachusetts and I play this game all the time, even out of the car/ by myself. It's actually quite fun and addicting. It's totally safe and immature, but appropriate, just like most car games. I play with the rule that if driving with girls, they are hands off unless they do it first, then it's fair game. I'm so glad somebody finally wrote about this, I hope it goes a long way. ---Transit.letum Keep. Down here in Texas, at least in my city, this game is fairly popular, and i introduce new people to the game all the time. It's a very friendly game, and it really brings the car together. It makes the car ride more enjoyable and light-hearted. To delete this entry and deny the masses access to this game would be a crime against humanity. ---Johnny
 * Delete. Shame really. Playing this game does not involve inflicting pain on the other player (such as pinching or twisting); I hope it goes far. Flowerparty ■ 02:40, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Delight ... er, I mean Delete. BD2412  talk 02:48, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
 * delete. And as if anyone needed me to say, transit, johnnyb and dana all only have a single contribution... to this AfD Mmmbeer 03:26, 18 October 2005 (UTC)


 * Comment. Ugh. I was just about to say that I didn't write those. I do know the first person, though. I asked him to help me out. (Can you look at the IP addresses or something? I don't know Johnny...) Sorry guys. Just trying to keep this afloat... --Dana 01:42, 19 October 2005 (UTC)


 * Don't Delete! I can't beleive I'm seeing this on Wikipedia!  My friends and I used to play this all the time (in the suburbs of Chicago) I had no idea it was so wide spread.  This game is great, it creates a great bond between the participants (or a release of sexual tension, depending on who you're playing with).  Just because Google hasn't picked it up yet doesn't mean that people aren't playing it.  ---Molly


 * Comment: I'm terribly sorry that my contribution is the same as Transit and Dana, but there's not much else to contribute. It's a game, pure and simple. If you'd like a long and mostly made up essay on the deep philosophy and spirituality surrounding the game, then fine. I'll write one up and e-mail it too you. But honestly, it’s a game, and the only real reason you play car games is to alleviate some of the tediousness of driving, especially long distances. Nipple touch mini, in conjunction with Punch Buggy and Yellow car I win (and The Game where applicable) accomplishes this. There is a severe lack of car games, barring the few you played as a kid, such as the license plate game, or some billboard game, but I honestly feel as though I’ve outgrown those games. I need a game with competition, with several people fighting to get the nipple-touch. It's competitive. Try it, i can almost guarantee you'll love it. NTM is fairly new to my community, probably imported by some college kid on a road trip, but it's a blast. I am honestly astounded that it's so widespread that it's on Wikipedia, it made my day. Even if it is a little too obscure for your tastes, if you leave this up on Wiki, I’m positive that many more people will learn of NTM and fall in love with it's silly, immature charms. After all, isn't this how things grow? Something fun gets posted somewhere. People read it and implement it into their everyday lives, then tells friends. This could become huge, and I think it would be a crying shame to kill it now. After all, it's a lot bigger than either Molly or I thought. Don't stifle a car gaming revolution. ---Johnny
 * Delete O.R. as per Johnny the Sockpuppet --Anetode 04:31, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete despite apparent popularity in sockpuppet community. Very little verifiable evidence that this has achieved any notability as indicated by no Google hits. Capitalistroadster 05:51, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete, before the clones multiply anymore.  freshgavin TALK  05:52, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment: My main concern with this article is verifiability. If this game is played by a small number of people, and no written records of it exist, we don't have any way of knowing that the article is correct, or finding errors.  That kind of content isn't appropriate for an encyclopedia.  There are a lot of places on the internet where you can tell people about something new and try to raise its popularity, but Wikipedia is trying very hard not to be a promoter so much as a recorder.
 * It can be difficult for us to tell whether something like this is popular. I hadn't personally heard of it, and I couldn't find any google hits.  If you can find internet references or other textual references (perhaps they were using a different name), or some other records of its popularity and existence, that would be a major help in keeping the article.  Barring that, there may be more specialized internet sites which have more lenient inclusion requirements.  -- Creidieki 06:24, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

Delete. Close to nonsense. Touching nipples is non-sexual? Logophile 15:54, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete, unverifiable, puppetfest. MCB 06:46, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete, as opposed to punch buggy, this is unverifiable. - Mgm|(talk) 12:11, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete as per MCB. Sandstein 14:50, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete - I drive a Mini Cooper myself. As "Johnny" points out, people will "read it and implement it into their everyday lives", and I can't live with the responsibility of encouraging such wanton behaviour... CLW 14:52, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete as non-verifiable. If we get any more puppets I'll be able to start my own Muppet Show.--Isotope23 14:55, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete and BJAODN this discussion. -- howcheng  [ talk &#149; contribs &#149; web ] 16:13, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete or possibly merge into Punch Buggy if independent existance can be verified at all... I have not found any evidence anywhere though and I researched it heavily... it does seem to be a good BJAODN entry actually. - Falerin 17:42, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment. I found a Google hit, dated April 2004 here. Since this clearly depends on a couple of fringe pop-culture foundations (the website appears to be related to Howard Stern, & the link refers to The Surreal Life), on one hand I'm not surprised this exists under the radar; on the other hand, I am surprised that, because the stereotype Internet nerd tends to hyperfocus on trivia like this, there aren't a number of Google hits about this odd passtime. Has anyone watched TSL & can verify that the "Nipple-Touch Mini" game was played on this particular episode? If so, then it's a definite keep; if not, then it's either a hoax or clearly not-notable. (And given the attention Wikipedia gets, I'm willing to bet money that in 6 months that this will be a real game unless this article is deleted.) -- llywrch
 * The Google hit Llywrch found does not appear to be about this game; the "mini" referred to is not the Mini automobile, but Verne Troyer, the actor who plays "Mini Me" in the Austin Powers movies. Delete the game as unverifiable. --Metropolitan90 00:00, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment. You're right: the link above is incorrect (thanks for trying, Llywrch; and why didn't anyone else notice this?). It is not, however, unverifiable. There are several people that have verified its existance both above and below this comment. People from both inside the United States (I'm from New Hampshire) and in the United Kingdom have verified the reality this game or its variants. (Which is a good point; I'll add a section on mini-pinch as outlined by Kilo-Lima below.)
 * Comment. Ah ha! Thank you, Llywrch. Even if we get over-ruled, you're really right about everything else. I hope this gets to at least have a chance... Or maybe keeping it afloat on a BJAODN page would help it last long enough to be undeleted... --Dana 01:42, 19 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete, Punch & Judy votes nonwithstanding. &mdash;  F REAK OF N URxTURE  ( TALK )  08:41, 19 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete all sock-puppets. Oh, and delete this article. Marskell 10:21, 19 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep Similarly, in the United Kingdom, it is called Mini-pinch: When one person sees a Mini, they pinch the other person. Alternations: Mini-punch. - Kilo-Lima 13:08, 19 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment: what about Mini-Judy? &mdash;  F REAK OF N URxTURE  ( TALK )  16:00, 19 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep per above.  Grue   16:21, 19 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete NN --Rogerd 06:12, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep oh give me a break, if you want a deletion give an actual reason. the amount of things on wikipedia is rediculous and this article, according to the couple people who have mentioned it, is relevant to them. Just because its not to you doesnt mean anything. so give a reason or dont write delete, all the people who voted to keep have valid reasons and don't cite "sock puppets" repeatedly. So I vote to keep it based on the fact that there now is a google hit, and that it is relevant to multiple users as well as their pools of friends. I also would like to state that the person who started this deletion probably did not read the article, because they think that the game is sexual, when it is stated differently in the article. In short you dont delete something just because you think its stupid, if its well written and relevant then let it slide. --Aaron 16:47, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment. Aaron, careful not to be too biting with your opinions. I recognize the importance of keeping Wikipedia clean, and I feel that people do an excellent job with it. I do understand the opinions of many of the people that wrote to delete this article. The first user to respond, Creidieki, did read the article and his comment showed me that I needed to be implicit in stating that the game is not sexual (which I did). This user even came back later to support his claims, which is admirable. I also understand why one would think so without playing the game. Since I published this article, I have read up on "sock puppets" and "vanity articles," and now regret asking my friend (transit.letum) to help in our cause. I realize that doing that is against the traditional wiki rules and I didn't mean do start that. Other than that, however, I am not a... sock-puppeteer? This article is real and many people unrelated to me have come to show it. Please take that into consideration, everyone.--Dana 18:34, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment. Just thought it was kind of interesting to point out that two of the "keep" votes are from a deletionist and from and admin. --Dana 17:41, 21 October 2005 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.