Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nnaemeka Ikegwuonu


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. There is no doubt that some of the sources are trivial mentions or otherwise fail to provide "significant coverage" of the topic. However, many of the profferred sources remain unchallenged, and there is divergent opinion on some sources as to whether or not significant coverage is acheived, with most participants agreeing sigcov is present. 78.26 (spin me / revolutions) 18:43, 3 January 2022 (UTC)

Nnaemeka Ikegwuonu

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Promotional article on a non notable business man who lacks in-depth significant coverage in reliable sources, a before search turns up nothing concrete for example see this, this, amongst other unreliable sources yet to develop a reputation for fact checking. The award they one isn’t significant that it rises to satisfy WP:ANYBIO so in all they fail to meet our notability threshold. Celestina007 (talk) 21:21, 26 December 2021 (UTC)


 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Africa-related deletion discussions. Celestina007 (talk) 21:21, 26 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Nigeria-related deletion discussions. Celestina007 (talk) 21:21, 26 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Europe-related deletion discussions. Celestina007 (talk) 21:21, 26 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep Hi, I commented on the talk page, but maybe I should have done it here, sorry, this is my first time having an article nominated for deletion, so I'm not sure if commenting here or the talk page is correct. On the talk page I pointed out that he has been covered in CNN twice as well as in Nigerian, British, and Ghanaian news, which seems to satisfy the general notability criteria to me. I see the comment about the awards, and I don't feel confident enough in the rules to argue, obviously I thought they were notable, which is why I included them, but the crux of my argument is the two CNN and other news sources make him notable. And I'd say for both his radio and his solar energy work. Regarding it being "promotional", I don't agree - if anyone wants to point to any promotional language, I'd be happy to edit, but I think I simply and neutrally wrote what he did - obviously he did good things, so writing about them seems likely to read positively, I can't really avoid that. CT55555 (talk) 22:00, 26 December 2021 (UTC) (and edited a bit after I thought about it more. CT55555 (talk) 00:59, 27 December 2021 (UTC) )
 * Comment — The editor above is the creator of the article which is now undergoing scrutiny to check for possible COI. Celestina007 (talk) 11:04, 27 December 2021 (UTC)


 * Keep I'm not sure what sources you were looking at? Since there's reliable sources represented in the article itself already. But i'll compile a list of those and others as an example:
 * It looks like he's notable for two separate things, at minimum, the agricultural radio show and then the agricultural cold rooms company that he won a lot of international awards for, including the World Innovation Summit for Education awards. Silver  seren C 22:10, 26 December 2021 (UTC)
 * All of which do not discuss the subject of the article with significant coverage so I’m afraid I don’t see how WP:GNG is satisfied when WP:SIGCOV isn’t satisfied. Celestina007 (talk) 11:11, 27 December 2021 (UTC)
 * "Growing up in Nigeria, Nnaemeka Ikegwuonu spent his after-school hours raising poultry and cattle. After high school, as he participated in youth and citizens' associations helping farmers, Ikegwuonu quickly became aware that the rural community had little access to information about farming practices and environmental issues. In 2003, he founded the Smallholders Foundation to provide the rural community with information - via the radio - on contemporary agricultural techniques and environmental conservation. Ikegwuonu, who has a bachelor of arts in history and international studies and a master's degree in cooperation and development, is becoming known as a change-maker who fights poverty using new interactive technology"
 * It looks like he's notable for two separate things, at minimum, the agricultural radio show and then the agricultural cold rooms company that he won a lot of international awards for, including the World Innovation Summit for Education awards. Silver  seren C 22:10, 26 December 2021 (UTC)
 * All of which do not discuss the subject of the article with significant coverage so I’m afraid I don’t see how WP:GNG is satisfied when WP:SIGCOV isn’t satisfied. Celestina007 (talk) 11:11, 27 December 2021 (UTC)
 * "Growing up in Nigeria, Nnaemeka Ikegwuonu spent his after-school hours raising poultry and cattle. After high school, as he participated in youth and citizens' associations helping farmers, Ikegwuonu quickly became aware that the rural community had little access to information about farming practices and environmental issues. In 2003, he founded the Smallholders Foundation to provide the rural community with information - via the radio - on contemporary agricultural techniques and environmental conservation. Ikegwuonu, who has a bachelor of arts in history and international studies and a master's degree in cooperation and development, is becoming known as a change-maker who fights poverty using new interactive technology"
 * It looks like he's notable for two separate things, at minimum, the agricultural radio show and then the agricultural cold rooms company that he won a lot of international awards for, including the World Innovation Summit for Education awards. Silver  seren C 22:10, 26 December 2021 (UTC)
 * All of which do not discuss the subject of the article with significant coverage so I’m afraid I don’t see how WP:GNG is satisfied when WP:SIGCOV isn’t satisfied. Celestina007 (talk) 11:11, 27 December 2021 (UTC)
 * "Growing up in Nigeria, Nnaemeka Ikegwuonu spent his after-school hours raising poultry and cattle. After high school, as he participated in youth and citizens' associations helping farmers, Ikegwuonu quickly became aware that the rural community had little access to information about farming practices and environmental issues. In 2003, he founded the Smallholders Foundation to provide the rural community with information - via the radio - on contemporary agricultural techniques and environmental conservation. Ikegwuonu, who has a bachelor of arts in history and international studies and a master's degree in cooperation and development, is becoming known as a change-maker who fights poverty using new interactive technology"
 * It looks like he's notable for two separate things, at minimum, the agricultural radio show and then the agricultural cold rooms company that he won a lot of international awards for, including the World Innovation Summit for Education awards. Silver  seren C 22:10, 26 December 2021 (UTC)
 * All of which do not discuss the subject of the article with significant coverage so I’m afraid I don’t see how WP:GNG is satisfied when WP:SIGCOV isn’t satisfied. Celestina007 (talk) 11:11, 27 December 2021 (UTC)
 * "Growing up in Nigeria, Nnaemeka Ikegwuonu spent his after-school hours raising poultry and cattle. After high school, as he participated in youth and citizens' associations helping farmers, Ikegwuonu quickly became aware that the rural community had little access to information about farming practices and environmental issues. In 2003, he founded the Smallholders Foundation to provide the rural community with information - via the radio - on contemporary agricultural techniques and environmental conservation. Ikegwuonu, who has a bachelor of arts in history and international studies and a master's degree in cooperation and development, is becoming known as a change-maker who fights poverty using new interactive technology"
 * It looks like he's notable for two separate things, at minimum, the agricultural radio show and then the agricultural cold rooms company that he won a lot of international awards for, including the World Innovation Summit for Education awards. Silver  seren C 22:10, 26 December 2021 (UTC)
 * All of which do not discuss the subject of the article with significant coverage so I’m afraid I don’t see how WP:GNG is satisfied when WP:SIGCOV isn’t satisfied. Celestina007 (talk) 11:11, 27 December 2021 (UTC)
 * "Growing up in Nigeria, Nnaemeka Ikegwuonu spent his after-school hours raising poultry and cattle. After high school, as he participated in youth and citizens' associations helping farmers, Ikegwuonu quickly became aware that the rural community had little access to information about farming practices and environmental issues. In 2003, he founded the Smallholders Foundation to provide the rural community with information - via the radio - on contemporary agricultural techniques and environmental conservation. Ikegwuonu, who has a bachelor of arts in history and international studies and a master's degree in cooperation and development, is becoming known as a change-maker who fights poverty using new interactive technology"
 * It looks like he's notable for two separate things, at minimum, the agricultural radio show and then the agricultural cold rooms company that he won a lot of international awards for, including the World Innovation Summit for Education awards. Silver  seren C 22:10, 26 December 2021 (UTC)
 * All of which do not discuss the subject of the article with significant coverage so I’m afraid I don’t see how WP:GNG is satisfied when WP:SIGCOV isn’t satisfied. Celestina007 (talk) 11:11, 27 December 2021 (UTC)
 * "Growing up in Nigeria, Nnaemeka Ikegwuonu spent his after-school hours raising poultry and cattle. After high school, as he participated in youth and citizens' associations helping farmers, Ikegwuonu quickly became aware that the rural community had little access to information about farming practices and environmental issues. In 2003, he founded the Smallholders Foundation to provide the rural community with information - via the radio - on contemporary agricultural techniques and environmental conservation. Ikegwuonu, who has a bachelor of arts in history and international studies and a master's degree in cooperation and development, is becoming known as a change-maker who fights poverty using new interactive technology"


 * This is just an example of the personal information about his life in just one of the sources. They are not just about the companies at all. Silver  seren C 02:20, 28 December 2021 (UTC)


 * Comment Why exactly is this listed as USA and Texas-related? --SVTCobra 23:12, 26 December 2021 (UTC)
 * It doesn't have much to do with Europe either. CT55555 (talk) 00:59, 27 December 2021 (UTC)
 * It does, the subject spent a considerable amount of time in Germany, and I believe Germany is a European country. Celestina007 (talk) 11:09, 27 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Excuse me, Celestina007, but you did not answer my question. --SVTCobra 11:23, 27 December 2021 (UTC)
 * @, an error on my part, apologies, i intended to put Germany and Europe & not Europe, US and Texas, sorry for the confusion. Celestina007 (talk) 11:30, 27 December 2021 (UTC)


 * '' Uncertain ' I'm not sure about notability, but the CNN story is to some degree a promotional interview. No news source is free from doing that. A relatively responsible source will print a promotional article only if they truly think it's newsworthy enough to be worth promoting. In many cases there  is no really sharp divider between news and promotionalism. We, however, do have to make a sharp decision between having or not having an article. Most of the time, it's obvious; this isn't obvious.    The cumulative effect of the many sources can mean either notability, or a very active PR representative. What I am trying to figure out is whether this is a proposal or a successful product. That's not a formal standard for notability, but if it is not yet in significant use, the sources are much more likely to be PR.  DGG ( talk ) 01:08, 27 December 2021 (UTC)
 * changed to Delete--see below DGG ( talk ) 02:13, 28 December 2021 (UTC)
 * The product is definitely in significant use per the CNN source that says "Officially launched in 2015, ColdHubs now has 54 units in 22 states across Nigeria. More than 5,250 smallholder farmers, retailers, and wholesalers use its cold rooms and in 2020, the company stored 40,000 tons of food, reducing waste and increasing farmers' profits."  Princess of Ara  10:08, 27 December 2021 (UTC)
 * @, you are very correct, please check below for my source analysis. There is literally 0 significant coverage about they themselves. Celestina007 (talk) 11:09, 27 December 2021 (UTC)


 * Keep Per the sources provided by . Subject passes WP:GNG.  Princess of Ara  10:08, 27 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment — Please see source analysis below. Celestina007 (talk) 10:53, 27 December 2021 (UTC)


 * Comment — Please see source analysis above. Celestina007 (talk) 10:53, 27 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Just to reply to the above, the CNN articles both talk about the source before they talk about organization he set up. Also you deleted two sources that do talk about the subject this morning. So the analysis seems like opinion, rather than fact and it doesn't assess the two sources you deleted, while none gave him extensive coverage, it seems unfair that you nominate this for deletion and then remove valid citations from the article, that is going to make the article inferior, I request you revert these edits. CT55555 (talk) 11:00, 27 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Especially since the analysis ignored all of the sources I originally linked in my vote above. Silver  seren C 02:23, 28 December 2021 (UTC)


 * Keep. With edit conflicts with Celestina007, I have just checked the references and used them to expand the information in the article a little bit (such as adding his middle name), tightened up the wording somewhat, and removed information not in the refs—exact year of birth (2 refs give his age), where he was born. I found only 2 somewhat promotional sources: the "apply now for the award!" one, which I replaced with their article at the time of the award using the Internet Archive, and the Guardian Nigeria, which I reluctantly kept because it references some specifics about his foundation. The rest are news coverage and in a couple of cases awards coverage. He's been covered over time—some articles from 2015, some including the other CNN from this year—in multiple reliable sources (with the Guardian plus the 2 CNN, we are already at the rule-of-thumb 3) and received several awards, which, while none is the Nobel, are a cut above the "Forbes under 40" stuff. In short, he meets GNG, and the article is not promotionally written. Yngvadottir (talk) 11:18, 27 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment — As is customary, this would be my last comment whilst I let the community decide for themselves, I have given a source analysis above which I hoped to prove that the subject doesn’t meet WP:SIGCOV as it his organization that is primarily discussed and not they themselves as the source analysis shows and anyone can check to confirm this. If there isn’t significant coverage then GNG isn’t met as a major tenet of GNG is SIGCOV, but like I earlier stated, this would be my final comment here and let the community do the remainder. Please if anyone wishes to directly ask me something, please do ping me. Celestina007 (talk) 11:35, 27 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete The units are best indicated by the photo in yen.com.gh. It consists of an assembly of. 3 standard items: solar panels, an insulated room, and the refrigeration unit to run it.  The second Guardian item indicates what he actually does: He didn't invent  any of them. He didn't even assemble them.  Danfoss, a international refrigeration company, did. What he does is some combination of selling them as a distributor and buying them himself and renting  space in them.    Selling/renting  54  refrigerators in a country the size of Ghana is worth doing; but it is hardly significant enough for an encyclopedia  .  References making a big story out of something trivial are a sure indication of PR.  There's nothing wrong with that--it's how people develop companies . But we shouldn't be part of it.  If anyone is notable here, it's his PR agent. It helps to actually read at the content of the references DGG ( talk ) 02:13, 28 December 2021 (UTC)
 * What does any of that have to do with his agricultural radio work that had coverage of him spanning a decade before the refrigeration company was ever a topic? Silver  seren C 02:21, 28 December 2021 (UTC)
 * I'm reluctant to get into a debate about our personal opinions of the merits of a business model. I have opinions, I'll briefly say them here, but I think our job is to focus on if he meets the notability rules. To say 54 refrigerators is technically correct, but they are building sized refrigerators. I did read the sources, I did note the same impact that user:Princess of Ara spoke of above, it's quite big, but again, if that is notable or not should be about the CNN etc, not our personal opinion on business models and or human impact. And this is taking place in Nigeria, not Ghana. I think the reason we consider CNN and The Guardian reputable is that people presumably can't just persuade them to run articles, they have an editorial team.  CT55555 (talk) 02:34, 28 December 2021 (UTC)
 * please look again. Even if you consider the size or independence of his business as relevant to determining notability (I can't quite follow the logic there with respect to notability guidelines, since that's presumably taken from one aspect of the special guidelines for businesses, and GNG trumps all special guidelines; and in any case impact can be measured by other criteria), I agree that ColdHubs is probably not notable in itself; this is the article on its CEO, not the draft article on the company. And you appear to have misinterpreted some of the cited sources. The "second Guardian item" is guardian.ng, and is about an event held by Danforth. It neither states nor implies that Ikegwuonu's coolers are produced by Danforth. See my edit summary: I went back and forth about removing that source, but it has valuable information about his Small Holders Foundation. And as points out above, Ikegwuonu is Nigerian, not Ghanaian. I did not consider stats on the uptake of the coolers to be germane in an article about him, but if that is important to you, look again at the 2021 CNN source, which I believe is where you got the 54 units number from; the passage reads: "ColdHubs now has 54 units in 22 states across Nigeria. More than 5,250 smallholder farmers, retailers, and wholesalers use its cold rooms and in 2020, the company stored 40,000 tons of food". Whether this represents franchising or licensing of the technology in addition to ColdHubs' own units, or just the local circumstances that a large number of individual farmers and traders make shared use of each unit, 5,250+ and 40,000 tons are big numbers. I disagree with you on their relevance in an article about the person, especially since he has been written about for other things than being a successful business owner. (And I note that while I was scrutinizing the existing sources and reworking the article to expunge unsourced information and to make it as visibly unpromotional as possible (slowed by edit conflicts, but I'm slow in any case),  found a treasure trove of additional sources, including more information about his education and who knows what else, I or someone else needs to look at them and further improve the article.) But if the stats are relevant, then presumably they should be added in that form, and his notability should not be judged based on assumptions that 54 is not great penetration of the market? Yngvadottir (talk) 03:37, 28 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment - The success, failure or reach of his business has nothing to do with the GNG. I also doubt his PR expert lobbies a 1 million dollar innovation prize or the 1.5 million dollar AYuTe challenge.  Princess of Ara  05:52, 28 December 2021 (UTC)


 * The 'source assessment' table is a flashy way to try to sway votes. It looks an attempt to make it appear as if someone other than the nominator asserts a lack of notability. I really hate to say this, but this does not appear to be about the article, but rather some other drama (for lack of a better term). --SVTCobra 04:38, 28 December 2021 (UTC)
 * @SVTCobra, It's most likely a pointy attempt to justify this failed report at ANI.  Princess of Ara  05:36, 28 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep: I honestly share the same opinion with, this source assessment table is just to misguide. The article clearly passes GNG. I feel this AFD/Source assessment table is just to prove a point that does not exist...  Comr Melody Idoghor  (talk)  11:08, 28 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep I mean, he is (either partially or prominently) featured in Deutsche Welle, CNN and The Guardian articles, so..yes, not to mention he has received a bunch of awards for his contribution to the field. Looking at the sources provided by (thank you!) Passes WP:GNG. I'm sure the editor has the best of intentions, but I'm a bit wary of the provided source assessment table and its conclusions. Deathlibrarian (talk) 07:35, 30 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep: per keep votes. I admire the diversity in the origin of the sources. (Nigeria, Ghana, UK, Bangladesh, Switzerland, etc.). While I appreciate the source analysis above and agree with most of the first and second column, I do not entirely agree with some entries for the last column. This is without prejudice to the author because I have seen even administrators disagree on what is truly "significant coverage". HandsomeBoy (talk) 19:41, 31 December 2021 (UTC)


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