Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/No Molestar!


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   no consensus. Relisting didn't help here and I don't think it's worth it to relist again. Some sources have been added, and as such I'm not seeing a consensus for deletion at this time. Notability can always be revisisted later, and if it's lacking we can easily merge this back into the artist's article. Bigtimepeace | talk | contribs 01:38, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

No Molestar!

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Non notable album; did not chart anywhere. Singer's notability is arguable, too.  Diego  talk 03:28, 29 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete Doesn't meet the criteria of WP:NALBUMS: Not reviewed independently, didn't chart.  This one's out. I, Jethrobot drop me a line (note: not a bot!) 03:56, 29 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Chile-related deletion discussions.  — • Gene93k (talk) 14:09, 1 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions.  — • Gene93k (talk) 14:09, 1 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Note The nominator made an unsubstantiated statement that the album didn't chart. Moscowconnection (talk) 09:34, 3 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep Her article in Spanish (es:Raquel Calderón) states that 3 singles from the album charted. Whether the album charted or didn't, since the English Wikipedia doesn't have articles about the singles, I think it's logical to let the album stay. Moscowconnection (talk) 09:38, 3 August 2011 (UTC)
 * I've just found a reliable source: . This is a good long article about the album. I'll just add it to the External links section. Moscowconnection (talk) 09:41, 3 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Chile has no official charts for singles nor for albums. That La Tercera article basically explains why she did that album and her opinion on it, after breaking from the band Six Pack. That article says the album was released on June 19, 2008. I have found no information regarding if it ever did sell well or if it charted elsewhere outside Chile, because it has no charts; per se all info about Chilean charts is faked. Even the Spanish Wikipedia asserts that it is a blog, is a blog created by someone unknown reliable? I'd certainly say no. It didn't chart.  Diego  talk  22:29, 3 August 2011 (UTC)
 * No charts? Nice. You can delete all chilean singers than. :) Moscowconnection (talk) 00:53, 4 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Anyway, the article in la Tercera addresses the subject in detail. So the album is notable per WP:GNG. Moscowconnection (talk) 00:53, 4 August 2011 (UTC)
 * You certainly didn't get the point, that there aren't charts it doesn't mean they cannot be notable for selling well their music in Chile and elsewhere, I'm not going to name such artists, and it clearly isn't the case of Miss Calderón, since there are no reports on her music selling well nor charts elsewhere outside Chile. La Tercera covers the subject's opinion, and it is only one source anyway which covers it in detail; that doesn't mean it is notable automatically.  Diego  talk 00:57, 4 August 2011 (UTC)
 * The fact that the list is published in the form of a blog doesn't say anything about it being official or not. Moreover, the article in the Spanish Wikipedia that you showed me calls the charts "official" and vaguely asserts that the chart positions are somehow calculated basing on radioplay and music download. Based on what you wrote, one could assume that the Spanish Wikipedia article was a lie. But you gave me the link yourself to prove your point. Therefore, one can assume that it tells the truth. If the charts, as you say, aren't in fact official, you should nominate the Spanish article for deletion. Then we'll see what happens. Moscowconnection (talk) 17:48, 4 August 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm not nominating it. Furthermore, read WP:CHARTS.  Diego  talk 18:40, 5 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Thank you. You convinced me that Chilean Top 100 charts aren't notable. But, as I can conclude from the La Tercera article, the album is. Moscowconnection (talk) 02:24, 6 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete as pure WP:PROMOTION. No GNG here. No assertion of notability. Neither presented link actually has source material on the other end as of this writing, so now unsourced. One of those expired sources makes it clear the linked article was an advertisement of the album and is now "from a campaign that is no longer active". BusterD (talk) 00:52, 6 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Did you even look? Have you read this source? LA TERCERA It's perfectly okay, you just need to scroll down, and it's a reliable source. It's an article in the Chilean newspaper La Tercera. The article is about the album and it's very long and detailed. Moscowconnection (talk) 02:24, 6 August 2011 (UTC)
 * I clearly didn't look as carefully as I should. Still not impressed with the source, but the editor is right that one source does link to content. I misread the advertisements around the story as the story. It was foolish and shows I was tired when I made the edit. BusterD (talk) 02:44, 6 August 2011 (UTC)
 * No problem, I didn't find anything there at first too. Those "inactive account" banners abstracted the view. Moscowconnection (talk) 03:00, 6 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Note I've just added a second reference, to another article in La Tercera about the album, this one. Now it's "repeated coverage". Moscowconnection (talk) 03:00, 6 August 2011 (UTC)
 * And a third one. The one that was found by the nominator. Moscowconnection (talk) 04:16, 6 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Note Here's a related AfD I came across today: Articles for deletion/Raquel Calderón. Moscowconnection (talk) 06:00, 6 August 2011 (UTC)
 * I believe that's canvassing. Please refrain from doing that.  Diego  talk 21:21, 6 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Could you be a little bit more precise? I don't see any canvassing here. I believe I did what you should have done. You should have notified me in particular that there is another discussion that I might be interested in. There are 2 AfD nominations by you, they are related. I only noticed the other one today. Moscowconnection (talk) 23:57, 6 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Spartaz Humbug! 06:11, 6 August 2011 (UTC)


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