Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/No More Room In Hell


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The result was   deleted -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 19:42, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

No More Room In Hell

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Completely unreferenced article on a future game. Most sources I did find were either first-person, or were forums, blogs, or wikis. Also created by an editor with clear COI. &mdash; KuyaBriBri Talk 16:07, 21 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete Unsourced Crystalballing for a mod not a stand alone game.Slatersteven (talk) 16:10, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

Hi there, i give all permission for this page, all the team does, we are a non profit mod and all our content is our own.


 * It also would appear to be promotional in nature as its created by oone of the developers of the mod using a SPA.Slatersteven (talk) 16:17, 21 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Delete. Unverifiable, not notable. The article's "References" section (totally empty) says it all. Also appears to me to be COI by an SPA. --Quartermaster (talk) 16:43, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

Ive just added the references.


 * NO, they fail wp:rs and in a big way. Also they do not establish notability, only that its being worked on. Also see WP:CRYSTAL ther is no evidacne when (or even if) this will ever be relasesed, and many such porjects fall by the way side. Slatersteven (talk) 16:52, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

Well i changed it to To be decided, anything else you would like to see? — Preceding unsigned comment added by NMRIHGothic (talk • contribs) 16:58, 21 December 2010 (UTC)


 * you changed what "to be decided"? I would like to see third party RS establishing notability.Slatersteven (talk) 17:00, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

I changed release date to TBD and i dont mean to sound rude or disrespective, i have no idea what your on about, should i just remove my staff's names? — Preceding unsigned comment added by NMRIHGothic (talk • contribs) 17:01, 21 December 2010 (UTC)


 * TBD does not tell us anything otehr then nothing is verifiable (when is it going to be realesed, will it in fact be relaesed) also none of the infomratio on this page is supported by reliable third party sources. In addition you need to establish notability (see wp:notability. Any unsourced information can be removed, how much would be left if all unsourced comment was removed?Slatersteven (talk) 17:06, 21 December 2010 (UTC)


 * I concur totally with Slatersteven. The current "references" are in no way from established reliable sources (the project's web site and a wiki entry). If this beta game mod appears in authoritative third party sources (newspapers, magazines, reputable third party web sites) then you'd have a case. Mind you, if this DOES become a best selling, notable game in the future, it might warrant inclusion. In such a future case, one would still need third party, reliable sources to bolster notability. It is definitely NOT notable now. Keep working on it, develop it, sell it, become rich, and then wait for someone else (due to potential conflict of interest) to write up an encyclopedia article on the game. --Quartermaster (talk) 17:08, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

What? read the free mod part? — Preceding unsigned comment added by NMRIHGothic (talk • contribs) 17:10, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

The only thing i have lef tto show you is this from moddb...

http://www.moddb.com/mods/no-more-room-in-hell — Preceding unsigned comment added by NMRIHGothic (talk • contribs) 17:13, 21 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Delete game mods (and patches, etc.) are virtually never notable, and this is no exception. Also appears to be a COI/SPAM case. Andrew Lenahan -  St ar bli nd  17:15, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

You know what, if i knew it was so hard to understand any of you i wouldent of bothered, its not worth the trouble. — Preceding unsigned comment added by NMRIHGothic (talk • contribs) 17:17, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

Delete — Preceding unsigned comment added by NMRIHGothic (talk • contribs) 17:21, 21 December 2010 (UTC)


 * I shall try to be clearer. In order to have a page on a subject the subject has to meet certain notability criteria (see wp:notability, the blue words are a link click on them and they take to the appropriate wikipedia policy page). Any information contained within a wikepedia article must be sourced (please see wp:rs. Self published sources are very rarely allowed as sources (thought they would be for some of the information on this article (see wp:sps) but could not be used to establish notability). As such the sources you have provided (by the way Wiki’s are never RS any under circumstances as far as I am aware) fall into the SPS category and thus cannot be used. Also wikipedia vary rarely (if ever) allows pages on subjects that do not yet exist (Please see wp:crystal, in your case in the sense that it has not yet been released. If you can find sources that meet wp:rs then the votes here could well change.Slatersteven (talk) 17:39, 21 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Speedy delete per G7; tagged as such. Erpert (let's talk about it) 18:22, 21 December 2010 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.