Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/No Place For Disgrace 2014


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The result was   redirect to No Place for Disgrace. Tone 15:02, 9 March 2014 (UTC)

No Place For Disgrace 2014

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No evidence of notability (see WP:GNG and WP:MUSIC). Sources fails WP:RS. PROD was removed. Ad Orientem (talk) 05:45, 18 February 2014 (UTC)


 * Keep Notable band. Article just needs better refs (like 90% of all Wiki articles) Mr Pyles (talk) 05:58, 18 February 2014 (UTC)


 * The burden is on the article's creators to add said references to verify notability. Simply saying something is notable does not make it so. Do you have any of those "better refs"? Stalwart 111  07:45, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
 * I did a quick Google and did not find anything that established notability. But I will also admit that I am not infallible. Sometimes I miss things and I did not spend hours looking for sources. If someone comes up with good sources that establish notability I will be more than happy to withdraw the nom for the original No Place for Disgrace. This one though, doesn't have enough to justify a stand alone article. There would have to be some strong evidence for notability independent of the original article. Otherwise I would suggest a merge and redirect. On a side note and just for clarity, we are talking about albums here, not a band. I have no idea if the band is notable or not. But band notability doesn't confer WP:N on their albums. -Ad Orientem (talk) 08:05, 18 February 2014 (UTC)


 * Comment: Offhand I'm leaning towards merging the information into the main page for the earlier album, as most of what I am finding tends to mention this in relation to the earlier album. Any changes to the album's crew, song list, or lineup can probably be fairly easily covered in a subsection in the main article. In any case, I also wanted to say that a band's notability does not extend to their albums. You still have to show that the individual albums have received enough coverage to pass notability guidelines. Part of this is because it's fairly common for musical performers to have a large output of music that get little to no coverage, despite the performer(s) being rather well known. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)   08:49, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Redirect to No_Place_for_Disgrace. I've merged most of the information into the main article and offhand, there just isn't enough individual coverage to really merit this re-recording having its own article. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)   09:24, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 18:25, 21 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 18:25, 21 February 2014 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   08:26, 2 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Redirect to No Place for Disgrace. Info on this re-release was added to the article on the original album; nothing left worth merging.  Gong   show  21:10, 2 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Redirect to the original album's article. MetalDiablo666 (talk) 00:31, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.