Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Noble Chummar


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. Wizardman 16:44, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

Noble Chummar

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Article about a Canadian lawyer that does not seem to meet WP:POLITICIAN. Of the (currently) seven citations, two are network profiles, two are just fact sheets related to an unsuccessful selection, two are rather superficial and the one related to David Peterson doesn't mention him at all. A proposed deletion has been contested by the creator. Tikiwont (talk) 12:01, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Canada-related deletion discussions.   —Tikiwont (talk) 12:11, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete. If he's a 'rising powerhouse' then he'll have many articles written about him soon. The article can be recreated at that point. At this point, he's just a young lawyer and would-be city counsellor who doesn't meet WP:POLITICIAN. justinfr (talk/contribs) 12:31, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete Most significant accomplishment so far was apparently coming in 3rd in city council elections, and even if he'd won council people are only marginally notable anyway. Not a badly written article, but the subject just isn't notable enough. Andrew Lenahan -  St ar bli nd  14:23, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Law-related deletion discussions.   --  Fabrictramp  |  talk to me  14:16, 3 September 2008 (UTC)


 * the article is being edited, the sources are sufficient sources as they are third party sources, and prints in national newspapers. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Infocentral2000 (talk • contribs) 14:37, 3 September 2008 (UTC)


 * A fair attempt to use everything available but the time isn't ripe yet. If there are other references they are better be brought up now. This isn't promising, though.--Tikiwont (talk) 15:24, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Do not delete; information added on achievements and board directors Informative33 (talk) 17:26, 3 September 2008 (UTC)]
 * The attempts at sockpuppetry aren't helping your cause. I've reported this. justinfr (talk/contribs) 18:05, 3 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Don't Delete - the world services reference is a legitimate, independant source, hence, information is valid Jacksonvaca (talk) 02:19, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
 * — Jacksonvaca (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. justinfr (talk/contribs) 00:51, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
 * A profile he probably wrote on the page of an organization he works for? Please read WP:RS again. Primary sources shouldn't be used to establish notability, only to provide non-controversial factual information once notability is already there. justinfr (talk/contribs) 11:22, 5 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Don't Delete Justinfr please refer back to the sources in the article. You must have past the sources which clearly tie the candidate as a board member to various councils.  Upon my search, I have also noticed a newspaper article tieing the candidate to Mr James Carville.  From your comments, I assume it is of your interest to look at the full article as it is a mention of notability. Jacksonvaca (talk) 13:14, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
 * You referred specifically to the wordservices bio|6, and so that's what I addressed. Being a board member or on a community council is not notable in itself; many people are on community boards. And I have reviewed the sources: 1 and 3 are self-generated, 4,5,7,8 list to his name only. 6 is a passing connection to Carville (see WP:NOTINHERITED). Source 2 might establish notability if it were longer. As is, it's a short mention on a lengthy list of people. justinfr (talk/contribs) 13:41, 5 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete unless independent sources about him, not just mentioning him in passing, can be located. Bearcat (talk) 21:35, 5 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Comment Still I do not feel ths article is worthy of deletion, there is too much information available on the candidate to deny the article's notability. I recall hearing something about him being a selected by the Canadian Government to moniter the orange revolution election in Ukraine. Jacksonvaca (talk) 19:50, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

I remember reading about that as well in one of the references, however, as has been noted above by wikieditors, a different source is required Infocentral2000 (talk)
 * This source is sufficient to back up the above claim Infocentral2000 (talk)
 * Just pointing out that Canada sent 500 observers there, so unless he was mentioned somewhere as a prominent member of the delegation, it's not notable in itself. justinfr (talk/contribs) 14:52, 7 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete - there are no reliable sources covering this individual to establish notability. The sources provided in the article may establish he exists, but don't establish notability.  -- Whpq (talk) 14:49, 7 September 2008 (UTC)


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