Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nogami Tohru


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The result was keep. Withdrawn - thanks Hoary. &spades;PMC&spades; (talk) 23:04, 1 August 2019 (UTC)

Nogami Tohru

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Boilerplate rationale adapted from my previous AfDs of similar photographer articles (such as Keizaburō Saeki), which itself was largely borrowed from at Articles for deletion/Hideki Kasai. Keizaburō Saeki, Hideki Kasai, and this currently-nominated article are all identical bot-created articles. I have nominated several others for deletion, but have improved and de-orphaned quite a few more when sources have been available. To quote Cckerberos: "This article is a generic stub, generated by a bot in 2007. It makes no specific claim to notability; it appears that similar stubs were created for every photographer listed in 328 Outstanding Japanese Photographers, all with the format "Name (years) is a renowned Japanese photographer" (compare the nominated article with Gen Ōtsuka, for example). Tokyo Metropolitan Museum of Photography states that the sole criteria for inclusion in the book was to have a single photograph in the museum's permanent collection at the time the book was published. That doesn't seem to meet WP:CREATIVE."

In addition to Cckerberos's excellent commentary, I'll note that I've done as thorough a WP:BEFORE check as possible for an English-speaker: Google searches of both the English and Japanese order of the English transliteration of his name. None of the English transliterations turned up anything of use. He does not appear in the reasonably thorough The History of Japanese Photography.

I have also checked his Japanese name, but all I found was this page, which appears to be a book sales site and is not independent for the purpose of supporting notability. The Japanese Wikipedia has no article about him, so there are no sources to be borrowed from it. I searched his Japanese name there and found nothing.

In the absence of reliable sources, we cannot verify that this person is notable, so the article, like many of the previous bot-generated photographers before it, should be deleted.

Courtesy ping to, who is knowledgeable on the topic of Japanese photographers, and who I'm terribly sorry to be pinging to another one after I just promised I was all done with them. &spades;PMC&spades; (talk) 11:57, 1 August 2019 (UTC)
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 * Comment and question. Perhaps only one of his various photobooks has been published recently, but JCII still has copies for sale of the retrospective they held in 1993. The "328" book says (page 244) that his photographs are in the collections of Nihon University, Yokohama Civic Art Gallery and others, as well of course as of Syabi itself. So all in all I'd say the man merits an article. Hands up anyone who proposes to write one. (Note that you'll have to read sources in Japanese. Guessing at the meaning of Google Translate's mangled translations isn't going to hack it.) -- Hoary (talk) 22:14, 1 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Ah, see, this is why I ping you to these. Those holdings are definitely enough to hit NCREATIVE, so I'll add those to the article and withdraw the AfD. Thanks, as always. &spades;PMC&spades; (talk) 23:00, 1 August 2019 (UTC)


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