Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Non-Muslim view of Husayn ibn Ali


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The result was delete.  Sandstein  18:24, 26 November 2015 (UTC)

Non-Muslim view of Husayn ibn Ali

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Seems like a quotefarm (with possible copyright concerns since some of the quotations are quite long), except for the summary section, which, in turn, seems like mostly an internal copy of the lead section of Husayn ibn Ali. The article's topic on its own, separated from the main article it was split from, may not be notable, and the slant towards non-Muslim views arguably makes it a POV fork. LjL (talk) 01:32, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment I rewrote the lead of article. Also, removed quotations. Saff V. (talk) 13:25, 22 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Islam-related deletion discussions. LjL (talk) 01:35, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. LjL (talk) 01:38, 17 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete. No evidence has been shown for the existence of a non-Muslim view of Husayn ibn Ali.  This article is just a collection of quotations (WP:QUOTEFARM).  Trying to synthesise a non-Muslim view of Husayn is against policy WP:SYN.  You would not really expect there to be a non-Muslim view of Husayn ibn Ali; he is not important to non-Shia.--  Toddy1 (talk) 07:54, 18 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Toddy1: Please don't discuss thorough a biased approach. He is of course important to non-muslims let alone non-shia mulsims. How can you ignore the quotes? Mhhossein (talk) 07:06, 19 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete As per nom and Toddy1. Regards FreeatlastChitchat (talk) 15:16, 18 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Move quotes to Wikiquote and delete article per nom and Toddy1 (WP:POVFORK, WP:QUOTEFARM, WP:SYNTH and not a single reliable source that actually discusses why and what non-Muslims think about Husayn). This article reeks of being an altar saying: "Check out how even non-Muslims all praise Husayn!". At least that is what the lead seems to tell me (Non-Muslim view of Husayn ibn Ali is refereed to statements of non-Muslim nobles men in esteem of Husayn ibn Ali who is grandson of Muhammad, prophet of Islam, killed in battle of Karbala. emphasis added). See also the similar AfD about views on Ali. - HyperGaruda (talk) 15:28, 18 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Keep There are similar articles in Wikipedia, for example: Semantic view of theories. The article is about notable topic and has reliable sources. Also, the article is important for Muslim and non-Muslim because some non-Muslim known Husayn ibn Ali and respect to him.Saff V. (talk) 10:20, 21 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Semantic view of theories?!?!?! Houston, we have a problem: an editor with a level of ignorance that could cause an encyclopedia to crash and burn.  There is no reason to consider the opinion of User:Saff V. in this AFD - he cannot be bothered to even read at the article he links to .E.M.Gregory (talk) 22:18, 23 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete WP:POVFORK, WP:SYNTH.E.M.Gregory (talk) 22:18, 23 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete as per Toddy1. Edward321 (talk) 00:32, 24 November 2015 (UTC)


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