Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nor Par


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   no consensus.  MBisanz  talk 05:30, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

Nor Par

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Song's claim of notability is entirely in the future. Problems with WP:CRYSTAL and WP:NSONGS. Might even qualify for A9. -- Mufka (u) (t) (c) 00:31, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep - The article is up to date, sourced, bound to be expanded and with a potential Eurovision winner. --  [[ axg  ⁞⁞  talk   ]] 01:05, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep -- Turkish Flame   ☎  02:00, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
 * A9 A song has to do more than just be a possible contender in Eurovision. Given that the artists are red links and the purported notability is only in the future, I think A9 qualifies. Ten Pound Hammer  and his otters • (Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP) 04:21, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete: notability not established WP:BAND WP:CRYSTAL. JamesBurns (talk) 07:39, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:CRYSTAL. JohnCD (talk) 14:54, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep. Song can't be more notable. It will be sung at an international song contest seen all over Europe and with a possibility that it will win? There really isn't any other place for the song's information either., as their will no doubt be plenty more to come. Also this article is well sourced. Grk1011/Stephen (talk) 17:37, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
 * The sources aren't really significant in what they tell you though. And don't you think having an article on the song first is putting the cart before the horse? And isn't saying "it will be notable, just wait and see" exactly something you're not supposed to do? Ten Pound Hammer  and his otters • (Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP) 18:05, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm thinking that the song is notable for being in the contest in general, not only if it wins. Grk1011/Stephen (talk) 18:10, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Still, don't you think we should at least have an article on the act singing it? The act might just be notable since they have a song in Eurovision. Ten Pound Hammer  and his otters • (Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP) 18:55, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
 * If I know members of WikiProject Eurovision, then that is coming very soon. Grk1011/Stephen (talk) 19:27, 15 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep, though I'm biased as a member of WikiProject Eurovision. The song just won a national song contest yesterday and will be the national representative at Eurovision.  I think that should satisfy notability, at least as much as every other song that has been chosen thus far.  Also, performing at the contest with the continental viewership makes even the song finishing in last place notable, so it isn't tied to the likelihood of winning.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jvr725 (talk • contribs) 22:07, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete. The article says it "will be the Armenian entry".  When it is the Armenian entry, it will become notable.  Powers T 00:16, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Its already chosen, it is the entry. The contest is in May, while the song selection processes going on now are very important and part of the contest overall. Grk1011/Stephen (talk) 03:37, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Still falls under WP:CRYSTAL. We don't generally assign notability to things that haven't happened.  What if the Armenians pull out due to unforeseen circumstances?  -- Mufka (u) (t) (c) 15:48, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
 * So then delete all the other song articles then, by that logic.Zu Anto 21:35, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Hey, I'm just quoting from the article. Powers T 16:58, 16 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Strong keep. This song has won a national competition, which is pretty obviously notable whatever happens to it in a continent-wide competition. Phil Bridger (talk) 22:15, 16 February 2009 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.