Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nordan Shat


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. The consensus is that this individual does not meet the notability guidelines for a stand-alone article. As there is no mention of Shat in the FaZe Clan article beyond in a list of managers (none of whom have articles), a redirect would not seem to be appropriate at this time.  Phantom Steve / talk &#124; contribs \ 15:51, 19 April 2016 (UTC)

Nordan Shat

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Biography of a YouTuber. Fails WP:ANYBIO for lack of significant coverage in reliable sources. - MrX 13:49, 2 April 2016 (UTC)


 * Keep I don't think it fails WP:ANYBIO, he has made a major contribution to the Call of Duty sniping community. However, article does lack lots of information. Pastorma (talk) 14:54, 2 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Indeed, the nomination is badly argued because WP:ANYBIO is a set of two additional criteria complementing WP:GNG, which is the guideline related to significant coverage in reliable sources (and which Shat unquestionably fails, from what I can see). Shawn in Montreal (talk) 14:26, 7 April 2016 (UTC)


 * Keep The article should be kept because it has relevant information both about Shat himself, and the clan he is part of. As mentioned above, the article could be lacking some information, to some extent. But if we look at it from that perspective, many pages like this such as: CaptainSparklez should also be reviewed. Nordan is the largest figure in the Call of Duty sniping community and has grown his two channels combined larger than the clan he is part of.WP:ANYBIO Manvswow (talk) 15:11, 2 April 2016 (UTC)
 * The main problem is that the article currently fails Wikipedia's standard for a subject having its own article, and your argument above doesn't address that at all. The fact that other articles are in equal or worse shape has no bearing on this particular article, it just means they may need to be deleted or redirected as well. Sergecross73   msg me  13:56, 12 April 2016 (UTC)


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 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Bizarre user 'hat note' reads: "This is a article on a FaZe Clan member, to view the team itself please visit the article FaZe Clan." See WP:NOTWEBHOST. Shat is utterly non-notable in terms of any independent WP:RS about him individually. Delete and redirect to FaZe Clan. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 14:06, 7 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Redirect or merge with FaZe Clan. There might be enough reliable sources to include him in that article, but I don't see enough to warrant an individual page. ZettaComposer (talk) 17:35, 8 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete perhaps for now so it will not be restarted anytime soon and Redirect, simply no convincing signs yet. SwisterTwister   talk  04:06, 9 April 2016 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Vipinhari  &#124;&#124;  talk  04:56, 10 April 2016 (UTC)


 * Keep Subscribers are enough to show notability. I don't think it needs to be deleted.-- Musa  Talk  09:40, 10 April 2016 (UTC)
 * "Youtube subscribers" is not a valid criteria for notability on Wikipedia. Please read the WP:GNG. Sergecross73   msg me  13:53, 12 April 2016 (UTC)
 * WP:ITSPOPULAR is not an argument. soetermans . ↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK 10:49, 15 April 2016 (UTC)


 * Redirect/merge with FaZe Clan. Rather clearly fails WP:GNG as pointed out by Shawn in Montreal. Subscriber count alone is not enough to show notability, secondary sources independent of the subject commenting on his subscriber count could be. Cannolis (talk) 15:14, 10 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Redirect - He fails the WP:GNG, I don't see a single third party reliable source dedicated directly around the subject. His group has its own article though, so it could be a viable search term. Sergecross73   msg me  13:53, 12 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Redirect - lacks extended, independent coverage and fails WP:GNG and WP:BIO for now.--Prisencolin (talk) 03:44, 14 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete or redirect. Being popular doesn't automatically mean a person should have their own Wikipedia article. Maybe in the future, when reliable sources actually mention Shat there can be an article. But untill that time, an article is not needed. soetermans . ↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK 10:49, 15 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete. No matter how popular a YouTuber might be, the notability standards for YouTubers require reliable source coverage about them — no YouTuber ever gets an automatic "because they have X number of subscribers" freebie, if RS coverage in media is not present to support an article. But there's exactly zero RS coverage shown here. Bearcat (talk) 00:54, 17 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete or redirect, don't bother merging. Non-notable person. –Roscelese (talk &sdot; contribs) 15:31, 18 April 2016 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.