Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Norita


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   no consensus. Ron Ritzman (talk) 01:10, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

Norita

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A defunct company that had only one product. No evidence of notability. Beeblebrox (talk) 20:56, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment A defunct company that had only one product under its own name that's at all well known. This product is the Norita 66, which you can read about here, and which was notable for (i) being an eye-level medium-format SLR (not unprecedented, but rare), and (ii) having a lens that not only was unusually fast in its time for a medium-format camera but was still described as fast a couple of decades later. I've also seen the Norita 66 described as having been influential on Asahi's design of the Pentax 6&times;7, but don't have a source for this immediately to hand. I'm not brimming with enthusiasm either for voting to keep this article or to create one on the Norita 66 as I think Camerapedia does this kind of thing better than Wikipedia does. -- Hoary (talk) 23:37, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Photography-related deletion discussions.  —Hoary (talk) 23:39, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
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 * The problem, as usual at AFD, is the lack of reliable sources. I'm not seeing any on the Camerapedia page either. Beeblebrox (talk) 00:02, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh, I read above that it was a matter of notability -- although of course "notability" can have a very strange meaning in Wikipedia talk pages. &para; As the Rittreck 6&times;6, the camera is written up on p.299 of 戦後日本カメラ発展史 (1971) and on p.141 of The Japanese Historical Camera (2004). As both the Rittreck and the Norita, it's written up on p.125 of The History of the Japanese Camera (1991). And those are just books that happen to be visible on my bookshelves -- or [cough] on the floor. &para; I've temporarily mislaid my copy of ズノーカメラ誕生：戦後国産カメラ10物語 (1999), which I am reliably informed (because I wrote that) devotes an entire chapter to the Norita 66; if the chapter is like most others in that book, the author (who has researched long and hard) will also provide details on the company. -- Hoary (talk) 01:23, 3 October 2010 (UTC) .... PS I've found Hagiya's book and have done some rewriting. But I'll pause now. (I haven't yet decided whether this merits an article in WP.) -- Hoary (talk) 02:46, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, / ƒETCH COMMS  /  00:12, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
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 * Unsure...I agree that, if kept, this might make more sense titled Norita 66. Regarding the reliable sources, if the books mentioned above are indeed accurate, I think that should count as potentially reliable sources. Additionally, this could potentially be merged with the Graflex entry (provided there was an addition to that entry about the Norita 66 being marketed as the Graflex Norita in the U.S.) --Artlovesyou (talk) 06:54, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Black Kite (t) (c) 20:35, 17 October 2010 (UTC) Second relist rationale: another week to see if foreign language sources can be added.
 * Move to Norita 66 per above. Vodello (talk) 07:44, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
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