Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Norm Burley


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. No objection to redirecting to an appropriate target. HJ Mitchell &#124;  Penny for your thoughts?   16:11, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

Norm Burley

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This individual's claim to notability is that he partially backed the record company that discovered Loretta Lynn, no independent sources are listed. It isn't a good sign when the first result from a google search for Norm Burley is about a rugby player, the results that are actually related are trivial mentions. Coverage issues aside, this seems to run afoul of WP:BLP1E. 2 says you, says two 15:45, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I understand where you're coming from, and I was aware of that when I created the page (somewhat hastily) by putting "definitely a stub" on that edit's description. I also know that in creating the page I didn't do enough to establish notability, but I'm working on that, as you can see.  However, here's why I think the page ought to remain on WP as a standalone article (rather than a redirect to Zero Records or some similar page): When I created this article, it already had 4 articles linking to it through "dead links" - Don Grashey, Zero Records, Loretta Lynn and Oliver Lynn.  This seems to indicate two notable events: 1)Co-founding and financial backing of Zero Records with Don Grashey and 2)Discovery and support for the career of Loretta Lynn.  Grashey's page and Zero Records mention little of Loretta Lynn - focusing instead on the record company, which supported many additional artists.  Oliver and Loretta Lynn's pages mention Zero Records in a very different light, focusing primarily on Burley's work as a part of Zero Records to help jumpstart Loretta's career.  I added a quote to the Norm Burley page from a cited work that emphasizes his significance in Lynn's career.
 * Rather than say "he partially backed the record company that discovered Loretta Lynn", I would suggest that, more accurately, "he discovered and recruited Loretta Lynn and partially backed Zero Records". As referenced in several published works (see third bullet, below), he was almost singularly responsible for discovering and jump-starting her remarkable career - he provided financial support, made the first printings of her album that garnered her first airplay (a process that is prominent in Coal Miner's Daughter, an Oscar-winning film).
 * I know very little about the Don Grashey side of things - I am mostly familiar with Loretta Lynn's story, but was interested in learning more about Norm Burley and Zero Records. It appears that Loretta Lynn herself may not have been the only reason Burley was involved with Grashey or Zero Records, as indicated by the Zero Records page.
 * One of the points in WP:BLP1E is that inclusion of individuals significant for only one event can overemphasize the importance of an event. As stated earlier, I believe that Burley was significant for two events, but even just focusing on the Loretta Lynn side of the situation, I think it's unlikely that overemphasizing the importance will be a problem.  The most common biographical work on Loretta Lynn is the movie Coal Miner's Daughter, which won an Oscar and is played frequently on television stations.  Printed works have stated that the movie underemphasized Burley's significance . So this article may actually help emphasize significance of the event in a more appropriate way.  He has been mentioned in several printed works, including Country Music Culture: from Hard Times to Heaven by Curtis Ellison, Coal Miner's Daughter (book) by Loretta Lynn and Vecsey (1977), and 2002's Still Woman Enough, yet receives little recognition in more pedestrian discussions of Lynn's career. Davemcarlson (talk) 04:04, 19 June 2010 (UTC)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, T. Canens (talk) 02:44, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 14:31, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
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 * Delete and redirect to Loretta Lynn. WP:BIO1E applies as all he is known for is seeing her perform and funding the release of her first single on a one-shot record label. That's it. He's not notable as all the coverage that exists is passing mentions in the context of Lynn's career. Fences  &amp;  Windows  23:56, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, NativeForeigner Talk/Contribs 05:21, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.


 * Merge with Loretta Lynn. --OpenFuture (talk) 07:49, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
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