Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Norma Bates (Psycho)


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The result was   keep. J04n(talk page) 10:52, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

Norma Bates (Psycho)

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Fails WP:GNG. Article is almost entirely unreferenced and features WP:PLOTONLY description of fictional character from the four films. Only references listed are for IMDB and an "unofficial" Robert Bloch website providing WP:OPINION analysis of the character.

Google searches for Norma Bates and Norma Bates Psycho provide no significant coverage that would help this article meet WP:GNG. AldezD (talk) 14:27, 20 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions. — Mr. Stradivarius  ♪ talk ♪ 14:49, 20 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions. — Mr. Stradivarius  ♪ talk ♪ 14:49, 20 February 2013 (UTC)


 * Comment: Since this character has appeared across different fictional works, especially as a live character in the TV series Bates Motel, I think we could piece together coverage about this character. I found here a book called A Visual Perversity: A Re-articulation of Maternal Instinct, that has a whole chapter titled "To spare a fly and harm a son: Hitchcock's Norma Bates". There may be more out there that is more embedded in general Psycho coverage but can be pulled together for this particular scope. I do agree that the article needs to be cleaned up. Erik (talk &#124; contribs) 15:06, 20 February 2013 (UTC)
 * This is another source, a journal article titled "'Do You Love Mother, Norman?': Faulkner's 'A Rose for Emily' and Metalious's Peyton Place as Sources for Robert Bloch's Psycho" that significantly covers Norma Bates. Also found this journal article titled, "Mother Knows Best: The Voices of Mrs. Bates in Psycho". I think there are sufficient sources from this preliminary search to suggest there is more out there, so I would argue for keeping the article. Erik (talk &#124; contribs) 15:14, 20 February 2013 (UTC)
 * You'd have to be psycho not to keep him. One of the most memorable characters in film history, number two in AFI's 100 Years...100 Heroes & Villains, 80th on this list, in scads of movies and TV shows (e.g. Saturday Night Live). Good golly, how much more notability do you need? Wake up and hear the screeching violins. Clarityfiend (talk) 23:40, 20 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Psst. Norma Bates, not Norman Bates. Erik (talk &#124; contribs) 01:19, 21 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Ha, hmmm ... how can I think with all those violins playing? Yeah, that's it. Clarityfiend (talk) 01:29, 21 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep per all the different films and TV shows and Erik's finds. She's also one of the top 10 worst moms in literature according to BookFinder.com. A merger with Norman Bates would be decidedly unhealthy ... Clarityfiend (talk) 11:21, 26 February 2013 (UTC)


 * Keep I believe the sources above are sufficient, just to pile on with sources, though, there's also a bit of coverage in "PARANOID PROJECTIONS: SELF AND SOCIETY IN "THE SEARCHERS" AND "PSYCHO"" (http://www.jstor.org/stable/41053364), "Francie Pig vs. the Fat Green Blob from Outer Space: Horror Films and "The Butcher Boy"" (http://www.jstor.org/stable/20558086), ""If Thine Eye Offend Thee...": Psycho and the Art of Infection" (http://www.jstor.org/stable/25561016), which could be used to say a few words about the meaning of Norma's character.  --j⚛e deckertalk 20:33, 27 February 2013 (UTC)
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