Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Norman Barnard


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The result was redirect to Troy, Michigan. Anyone is free to add any content to the target article if any. (non-admin closure) ASTIG️🎉  (HAPPY 2022) 15:15, 7 January 2022 (UTC)

Norman Barnard

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This person is not notable, and the source is not enough to show a hyper local politician is notable. Barnard was Township supervisor in a township that was on the verge of large scale growth and had seen some of its area annexed by the city immediately to its south. This was Troy, Michigan and Royal Oak, Michigan, but the year was 1956. The article seems to indicate Barnard did not hold a position in the new city government, or at least not mayor. He was later a probate judge, but that is not the level of judge, a county level judge dealing with estates and the lke, that is notable. Generally only appelate level judges at the state level are considered default notable. In 1960 Troy, Nichigan had a population of just under 20,000, being some raised well under a mile from the city boundary of Troy in the larger by population city of Sterling Heights, Michigan, and having read extensively on the history of Detroit, where I now live and work, and of metro-Detroit, it is clear that in 1956 Troy Township had a smaller population than Troy did in 1960. We are talking about actions in a place with under 20,000 people that was even then clearly within the Detroit Metro Area. There may be township supervisors that are notable, but we would need much more entensive coverage to show that. This article also suffers from about a third of it really being coatracking the history of the house Barnard lived in onto this article. If his house is notable, we should have an article on it, not coatrack the information onto a non-notable hyper local politician. John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:45, 22 December 2021 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   10:44, 30 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Merge with Troy, Michigan: Definitely deserving of a mention in the article for the town, but not for his own standalone article. Curbon7 (talk) 21:44, 22 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. Curbon7 (talk) 21:44, 22 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Michigan-related deletion discussions. Curbon7 (talk) 21:44, 22 December 2021 (UTC)
 * FWIW, here is his obit from the Detroit Free Press. Cbl62 (talk) 22:56, 23 December 2021 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Redirect to Troy, Michigan. No evidence of significant coverage and hyper-local information that has little chance of ever being better covered. Eggishorn  (talk) (contrib) 18:53, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Troy, Michigan. Doesn't appear to have enough press coverage to meet WP:NPOL as a "major local figure." Redirecting to the town seems like a reasonable target. Qwaiiplayer (talk) 14:01, 7 January 2022 (UTC)


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