Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Norman Daniels (disambiguation)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. at time of nomination, it appeared to be a delete, but given changes to article and discussion I see a keep as being prudent. Tawker (talk) 02:16, 3 October 2014 (UTC)

Norman Daniels (disambiguation)

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Disambig page that only serves to promote one Norman Daniels. No other entries worth keeping.  Konveyor   Belt   19:17, 22 September 2014 (UTC)


 * Well, there has been a discussion about the novelist, and it's only a pseudonym. How is that 'ambiguity' ordinarily handled?  Certainly a person looking for the men's fiction author should not be misled to think that the philosopher was author of those paperback novels.
 * The disamgiguation page (or a 'hatnote') should not in itself be cited as reason for a deletion. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Disambiguation MaynardClark (talk) 19:24, 22 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Disambiguations-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 19:27, 22 September 2014 (UTC)
 * How would other Wikipedians like to handle the ambiguity issue? Remember, it's about a pseudonym, not about a real author, and any mention of that pseudonym can only diminish the original subject. However, it's 'there' in the world... MaynardClark (talk) 19:28, 22 September 2014 (UTC)


 * Delete - Not really necessary. --Why should I have a User Name? (talk) 21:14, 22 September 2014 (UTC)
 * No no no - The fiction writer was Norman A. Danberg, and HIS pseudonym was 'Norman A. Daniels' (who wrote paperback 'junk fiction' with adventure themes.
 * This Wikipedia article is about Norman O. Daniels, PhD., the political theorist who harmonized the controversial questions about moral responsibilities about health AND healthcare with a consistent ethical theory of justice, based upon the consequentiallist reasoning of John Rawls.
 * The article about disambiguation is about the likely confusion about two men who wrote with the name 'Norman Daniels' - one legitimately using his own name, and the other writing pseudonymously. MaynardClark (talk) 21:33, 22 September 2014 (UTC)

Don't Delete - for the reasons cited above. Further, a look at the Wikipedia 'What links here' for the Norman Daniels article shows great confusion ALREADY within Wikipedia. It lists on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/Norman_Daniels the following Wikipedia articles which should NOT be linked to Norman Daniels because they refer to the 'Norman A. Daniels' pseudonym of 'Norman A. Danberg'.

That is SIX (6) - count 'em - misconnected articles which (presumably other) Wikipedians had wrongly thought refer to THIS person, a Harvard faculty member. Whether or not a Wikipedia article about Norman Danberg should be developed it outside the scope of my interest, but this discussion about the deletion of the Disambiguation page may wish to consider that Wikipedia already has six pre-existing pages wrongly attribued to Dr. Norman O. Daniels BECAUSE of the unresolved ambiguity. Of course, some folks DO resolve ambiguity for a living. MaynardClark (talk) 21:34, 22 September 2014 (UTC)
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 * Delete - Disambiguation page which only has two names listed, one of which is currently being nominated for CSD G12, and the other links to a pseudonym of a non-notable author. Aerospeed (Talk) 22:45, 22 September 2014 (UTC)


 * Keep. I have expanded the page with an entry for Norm Daniels (American football), who is referred to as Norman Daniels in several Wikipedia season articles relating to his student career with the Michigan Wolverines between 1928 and 1932. So far as the existing entries go, the WP:G12 nomination has been dealt with by the removal of the offending material, leaving an article that could do with more independent sourcing but is adequate for someone clearly meeting WP:PROF; and I have expanded and re-referenced the other entry to a reliable source, an article entitled Daniels, Norman A by John Clute in The Encyclopedia of Science Fiction, which I would regard in itself as a fairly strong indicator of notability, as well as rather confirming that Danberg was better known under the Daniels pseudonym rather than his actual name. I suspect that someone with enough access to specialist offline or paywalled sources could establish enough notability for a standalone article on him - but in any case, where a name (pseudonym or not) is enough of a search term to be mentioned in other Wikipedia articles, a redirect to an article with some relevant information or (as here) a disambiguation page entry linking to one or two of those articles is appropriate. PWilkinson (talk) 11:42, 27 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Speedy keep This clearly meets the guidelines for a disambiguation page. All three entries are valid, i.e. have an article or meet MOS:DABMENTION., have you read the guidelines for disambiguation pages? Boleyn (talk) 14:40, 27 September 2014 (UTC)
 * To be fair to the nominator, at the time it was nominated for AfD there was only one other non-article entry. older ≠ wiser 14:57, 27 September 2014 (UTC)


 * Comment Yes, sorry, I realised that. However, WP:ATD, more entries should have been looked for, I've added more, so there are now five six entries. Boleyn (talk) 15:12, 27 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep: as it now stands it's clearly a valid and useful dab page. Pam  D  15:24, 29 September 2014 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.