Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Norman Drew (cartoonist)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. King of &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  &spades; 01:19, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

Norman Drew (cartoonist)

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I do not see clear evidence of notablity in this article Boleyn (talk) 05:48, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
 * This AfD nomination was incomplete. It is listed now. DumbBOT (talk) 12:06, 9 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Comics and animation-related deletion discussions.   --  Fabrictramp  |  talk to me  20:48, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Living people-related deletion discussions. --Erwin85Bot (talk) 20:11, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Mr.Z-man 02:44, 14 September 2008 (UTC)


 * I also don't see a clear assertion or demonstration of notability. He is one of over a 100 people who worked on Yellow Submarine - one of 178 animators. I've had a quick look on the internet, and I only see Norman Drew's name in relation to Yellow Submarine when Drew is talking about it himself. I don't see anyone else talking about Drew himself in relation to the film. I'm sympathetic to the fact that he is involved in the film, so I'm not going for a delete, though I would like to see more evidence of notability so I can't say I'd like to see the article kept.   SilkTork  *YES! 03:03, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete, some suggestions of potential notability, but nothing really substantiating it. --Dhartung | Talk 07:39, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
 *  Weak keep  If it were Yellow Submarine that he relied on for notability I'd be saying delete, but looking at his entry at IMDB I see numerous cases of being credited as either "Animation Director" or "Assisant Director". That would seem to be "a major role in co-creating," per WP:BIO. The next issue is the next part of WP:BIO, "a significant or well-known work, or collective body of work, which has been the subject of ..." I suspect we could find the required references for the TMNT TV series, amongst others. The bits about "industry standard training" and the Presidency of the industry org (Not sure how all-encompassing it is - OK, having taken a look, it's more a promotional vehicle than an industry org - strike that comment) would also lend weight to the keep. MadScot (talk) 23:16, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Withdraw the weak keep. As things stand the text is pretty much a direct cut and paste from the subject's webpage. Its close to copyright violation as a result, I think. Its going to need a pretty thorough rewrite to address that issue. MadScot (talk) 03:07, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Hers fold  (t/a/c) 23:30, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Delete This has gone through a couple of discussions now and editors have looked carefully for evidence of notability. No one has yet confirmed it. We cannot have an article on Wikipedia for everyone who has a very minor part in the entertainment industry; it makes a mockery of our claim to be an encyclopedia. The editor who created it does not seem to have improved it since it was tagged or argued for it to be kept. The creator has only contributed to three articles, 1 of them Norman Drew and one to add info on Norman Drew. All contributions were made within three days, and to write a complete article on someone as your first contribution seems to me suspicious. So far, four editors have contributed to this discussion and they have all, in the end, voted to delete. Boleyn 09:17, 21 September 2008 (UTC)


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