Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Norman Mittelmann


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 04:48, 4 May 2022 (UTC)

Norman Mittelmann

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I tried to search for a reference to verify whether he has died or not, and I can find almost nothing on him apart from stuff copied from Wikipedia. Probably not notable? Ascendingrisingharmonising (talk) 12:45, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Bands and musicians and Canada. Ascendingrisingharmonising (talk) 12:45, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep. Clearly passes WP:GNG. What an odd nomination. There are two major reference works already provided in the article in which Mittelmann has an entry: The Canadian Encyclopedia (see here; this source has the date of death and it was included in the article; @ did you even bother to look at the sources already on the page?) and Theaterlexikon der Schweiz; both reference works notable enough to have articles on the sources themselves. Additionally, a google books search yields more sources and digging up reviews in major press doesn't appear difficult. For example, in just digging through the archives of The New York Times here are a selection of available reviews just from that one publication that could be used to expand the article:, , , , ,  Clearly WP:BEFORE was not followed. Lastly, as a winner of the Metropolitan Opera National Council Auditions (a major singing competition); he clearly passes criteria 1 of WP:ANYBIO, criteria 4 of WP:CREATIVE, and criteria 9 of WP:MUSICBIO. Strongly suggest the nominator withdraw this poorly thought through nomination.4meter4 (talk) 17:46, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep − obviously. No shortage of references to him in opera reviews in The Times. In one (16 March 1965) he gets a much better notice than Pavarotti in Traviata. His Dr Miracle was praised for its sinister quality (15 March 1966) and as Don Carlo at Covent Garden he was praised for "his powerful well-focused voice" and was "rightly cheered" by the audience.(7 May 1975). Clearly notable, and I agree with 4meter4 that the proposal to delete the article is, to put it as kindly as possible, ill considered. −  Tim riley  talk   19:05, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep - massive before failure by User:Ascendingrisingharmonising - can they withdraw? In seconds I've found 2 encyclopaedia entrances and a detailed 1961 Winnipeg Free Press article. Nfitz (talk) 20:19, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep. The references are good. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 02:20, 2 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep, well referenced as explained above --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:12, 2 May 2022 (UTC)
 * He has a long and impressive entry in the "Bible" of opera singers, and we should get more from it. I'm busy. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:25, 2 May 2022 (UTC)
 * @ I expanded it slightly and added citations. Much more could be written about the roles he performed and important productions and recording he participated in, but at least it's no longer a stub.4meter4 (talk) 22:49, 2 May 2022 (UTC)


 * Keep per above passes WP:GNG.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 21:51, 2 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep per all of above. For the love of God, can trigger happy editors do WP:BEFORE and read the relevant guideline before wasting everyone's time? Atchom (talk) 00:55, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Though given God's trigger happy tendency of smiting first, and asking questions later, perhaps that's not the best deity to invoke, by Frig. ☻ Nfitz (talk) 05:33, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
 * No-brainer keep.--Smerus (talk) 12:41, 3 May 2022 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.