Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/North Bellmore Fire Department


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was NO CONSENSUS TO DELETE. I don't much like this article and I think it should be re-merged into its parent. However, the comments are 3-3 tied. The Delete (or rather re-Merge) arguments are stronger, and the Keep arguments are kind of scattershot and weak. Not weak enough to turn a 3-3 tie into a consensus, though, in my view. Herostratus 03:48, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

North Bellmore Fire Department

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Not notable fire department for a small town. Was originally in The Bellmores, New York, until moved in these diffs. Small enough to be in towns article, and not notable enought to have it's own. --R Parlate Contribs@ (Let's go Yankees!) 23:09, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Re-merge back into the locality article. -- saberwyn 01:28, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Leave it alone, there is too much information for it to be in the The Bellmores. The large history section of the North Bellmore Fire Department has no reason to be in local hamlet article. -- Sullynyflhi 12:05, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
 * It's not extremely long. And it's quality, not quantity. Just because it's big doesn't make it notable. --R Parlate Contribs@ (Red Sux!) 22:17, 22 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Re-merge back into the article on the locality. If there is too much detail, then leave some out. The long chatty history belongs in their website, not in Wikipedia. Not everything in the world needs a detailed exhaustive history in Wikipedia. Fails to satisfy WP:N because the only refs are their own website and a directory listing in Newsday. Edison 14:38, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I do not agree that this article should be deleted. I believe the North Bellmore Fire Department deserves their own article and doesn't need to be added back into the The Bellmores. They have a very important job and it needs to be recognized. I know many of the firefighters in all towns and I think they would be upset with what some of you have to say. Wikipedia is not a paper encyclopedia, its sole purpose is to continue to grow and expand with new edits. Norkey9 14:12, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Ummm...by that logic, you're saying that we can't delete any article because every other person who has an article would upset if we deleted it. Yes, their job is important, which is why we have this article. However, is the fire department of a small town notable?. --R Parlate Contribs@ (Red Sux!) 21:18, 23 May 2007 (UTC)


 * I have looked into articles you have created and the all seem pointless so I guess we should put them up for deletion as well, so you are saying survivor is more important then learning about a local fire department? There are other articles that are smaller and show no purpose. I think you are a little upset because someone changed The Bellmores article that you made. Wikipedia was made for useful information not pointless, such as survivor! Norkey9 21:44, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Pointless is an opinion. Survivor, is a very popular television show that has ran for 14 seasons, and has ranked high in the Nielson ratings. That's very notable, and broadcast internationally. Survivor meets WP:N. A fire department for a small town, that has nothing special about is, is not notable. --R Parlate Contribs@ (Red Sux!) 22:42, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

First off Bellmore/ North Bellmore or The Bellmores whatever you want to call it is NOT a SMALL TOWN or any size town for that matter. Bellmore is a hamlet which is part of the Town of Hempstead, population 763,822 in 2006. Last time i checked that makes it bigger than most cities in the United States. North Bellmore Fire Department protects parts of the hamlets of N Bellmore, Bellmore, N Merrick, East Meadow, and just recently found out some of Levittown/ Wantagh. These are all sections of the Town of Hempstead (Notability: Largest town in America, or would be the 14th largest city in America). NBFD District also covers parts of the Southern State Parkway (190,000 vehicles per day) and Jerusalem ave (major thoroughfare for the area). All of you are making the NBFD sound like some insignificant and unimportant organization when cleary they are not. Lets not forget that the department is 100 years old, with much history that should be added to the article. Yes this article is small, thats why i made it a stub but, its also very NEW thus needing to grow with time and new edits from users (ex-members and history buffs).
 * Lets clear this up right now......

Oh yeah, one more thing bellmore is not suburb, it's an Edge city or classified as an urban fringe by the USPS. In Recent years Long Island has be put under its own Metropolitan Area (Nassau-Suffolk, NY PMSA), you see this more and more often in goverment and media reports. Sullynyflhi 23:37, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep. Most fire services are notable.  There is nothing wrong with the article that a few more references could not fix.  Vegaswikian 02:29, 26 May 2007 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.