Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/North Carolina Research Campus

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The result of the debate was Delete Jtkiefer  T - 06:22, 24 September 2005 (UTC)

North Carolina Research Campus

 * advertisemet. May be copyvio -- I haven't checked. In any case wikipedia is not a srystal ball, this is a set of images of how a proposed commercial development will look when and if it is built. Delete' DES (talk) 23:44, 16 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Article Author User:Bradspry. This is not a scheduled or expected future event. This is a real event that happened on September 12, 2005.  This is not extrapolation, speculation, and "future history".  It is happening now.  This is not crystal ball.  Come to Kannapolis, North Carolina, and see for yourself.
 * Delete as per nominator. The images are assuredly copyvios, as well.  User:Zoe|(talk) 23:47, 16 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment No vote. May very well be notable. Planned land developments can be notable, see Freedom Tower for one. — Phil Welch 00:27, 17 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Article Author User:Bradspry. I am an employee of the University of North Carolina at Charlotte, and a citizen of Kannapolis, North Carolina.  My university address book entry.  I attended the launch event this past Monday September 12, 2005, and was provided a Media Kit.  The license I stated was press release photos, which are believed to be fair use under wikipedia.  This is an historical event for Kannapolis, the site of the greatest lay-off in North Carolina history, with over 4000 jobs lost in one day.  This is documenting history, not an ad.
 * Article Author User:Bradspry. Added "Future building" tag to match Freedom Tower legitimacy reasoning.
 * Keep. I think, given its size, this announced development is a legitimate subject for an article, and this article is not written like an ad for the project.  I do think that the number of pictures are excessive, and would be excessive even if the project were up and running.  However, that is an edit job, not a reason to delete. -- DS1953 18:55, 17 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. A "research campus" doesn't deserve a separate article even if it actually exists. / Peter Isotalo 01:41, 18 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Article Author User:Bradspry. A research class campus is the highest order of campuses. Here are a few that you may have heard of: University of California, Berkeley, University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign, and Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University.  All three of these have separate articles on Wikipedia.
 * Huh? All the examples you've given are of separate universities that have been around for quite some time. This is just a rather large business complex that hasn't even been built yet and without any sign of being associated with any established university. From what I can tell from the article, it just looks like a rather ordinary office and retail development with some laboratory space for private research companies. Has construction even started? Do they have funding for it? Is there a date for when it's supposed to be completed? / Peter Isotalo 12:23, 18 September 2005 (UTC)
 * >>>without any sign of being associated with any established university. The very first reference in the article is * Stephen Moore. "UNC system and Dole to create Kannapolis jobs." The Daily Tar Heel. Accessed on 17 September 2005. This is not just a "rather large business complex".  This is the University of North Carolina System, whose first participants in the project are the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, North Carolina State University, University of North Carolina at Charlotte, and more universities to come.  Demolition of Cannon Mills, the site of the campus, is well underway.  Construction will begin on the Core Lab / Biogenic Fermentation Lab / Dole Lab Building within 90 days.  David H. Murdock has provided a billion dollars of funding, and the state legislature is providing millions of dollars of funding.  They have stated an aggressive goal of five years for completion of the majority of the campus.  Read the references. Brad Spry 23:51, 18 September 2005 (UTC)
 * "Read the references"? You're the one who wants it to be an article. Note these things in the article if you want to convince anyone. I don't do people's AfD-homework for them. Now here's the beef:
 * It's not built. I would never vote to keep an article on a fairly non-notable construction project of a rather non-notable business complex that hasn't even been built. In this case, construction won't start 'til sometime near Christmas and won't be done for five years. There are thousands of these kinds of construction projects all over the world and I don't want to see all of them turned into articles.
 * Non-notable is your opinion, from your obscured view through the ether. This is the largest event in the history of my city.  If your life were here, and you were standing here,  this would not be a question. Brad Spry 15:54, 19 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Demolition is a construction phase. Demolition of the Cannon Mills buildings, where the campus will be located, has been underway for a year.
 * That it's partnering with a few universities doesn't equal it to a university. This is very obviously not even to be considered a campus; they've just named it that way to make it seem more educational than it really is. It's still just a commercial project like many others and I don't know why you're trying to compare this to established universities. / Peter Isotalo 08:55, 19 September 2005 (UTC)
 * This project wouldn't be possible without the support of the University of North Carolina System. Just a commercial project?  Proof of the shallow depth of your research. Brad Spry 15:54, 19 September 2005 (UTC)


 * Don't single me out I expect the same treatment to be applied to the following articles:
 * 122 Leadenhall Street
 * 51 Lime Street
 * Bishopsgate Tower
 * Burj Dubai
 * Deutsche Stadion
 * Freedom Tower
 * Guangdong TV Tower
 * London Bridge Tower
 * MGM Grand Macau
 * Sagrada Família
 * Shanghai World Financial Center
 * Solar Tower Buronga
 * Symphony Tower
 * Union Square Phase 7
 * Volkshalle
 * World Centre for Vedic Learning
 * Brad Spry 16:11, 19 September 2005 (UTC)


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