Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/North Korean websites banned in South Korea (2nd nomination)


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The result was   keep. Suggest that consensus indicates moving the material to a new title Fritzpoll (talk) 10:18, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

North Korean websites banned in South Korea
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Seems to merely be a summary of a report by the OpenNet Initiative, adding little additional material or sourced information. Zim Zala Bim talk  11:44, 10 April 2009 (UTC) Dekkappai (talk) 18:43, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Korea-related deletion discussions.  --  I 'mperator 12:19, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Rename Zim, would you consider closing the AfD, and me changing the article name to Censorship in South Korea, in line with the other censhorship pages, and then expanding this page to add new subsections (media, etc)? Then adding expand tags? I can do all this. As the nominator, with no other people voting to delete, you can close the AfD now. Ikip (talk) 15:57, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Rename Ikip has the right idea here. Bring the article in line with other "Censorship in --" articles. A general censorship in South Korea would make an interesting article, and I've been collecting sources-- mainly in the area of erotic cinema-- for a while, but most of them are turning into dead links... Interestingly, like Japan in the '50s, the South Korean government pushed a "3-S" policy (Sports, Sex and Screen), which was designed to focus public attention on these areas to keep their minds off criticizing the government-- which was censored... Also, censorship of the erotic content of film went through some pretty major swings-- from some relatively lenient times in the '50s and early '60s, to strict censorship in the mid- late-'60s, to almost pushing it in the '70s... and then they had a fascinating character like Kim Ki-young who was able to-- usually-- avoid government interference by being financially independent of the studios/government... Anyway, potentially an interesting, "notable" and sourceable article. Dekkappai (talk) 16:36, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
 * More... further areas for the article occur to me-- besides the obvious (North Korea / communism in general, and the sometimes extreme censorship of coverage those subjects) the very odd/uncomfortable relationship with Japan, and the Japanese language and culture: When I was there-- late '80s - mid '90s-- members of the older generation would often pull me aside to share a bottle of soju while practising their Japanese. (They always assumed a foreigner could speak Japanese, but not Korean :) And my wife tells me that as children, they would be punished for speaking a Japanese word in school (this would be the '60s & '70s), no doubt as a way of cleaning the language & culture of occupation-era Japanese influence. Also the long official ban of Japanese films and TV shows, but their amazing "illegal" proliferation... resulting in some very strange situations within Korea and in relationship to Japan. I would be repeatedly told Japanese TV shows were "illegal" yet I'd see them on network TV, and video tapes everywhere... Anyway, this is all personal experience, but sourcing should be out there. And these would no doubt be prickly areas that might lead to POV edit-warring, but very interesting things anyway... Dekkappai (talk) 17:14, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Some sources I did a quick search sources on censorship in Korea, and found a lot of dissertations, a lot of coverage of the Japan-occupation era censorship, some on MacArthur-era U.S. censorship. Here are a few to put in a Bibliography for the article (although Japan-era would be for Korea, period, not just South Korea):
 * Songgyun'gwan Taehakkyo. Japanese censorship system and Korean responses in colonial Korea : papers presented at the 2005 AAS Annual Meeting, April 2, 2005, organized by Academy of East Asian Studies, Sungkyunkwan University, Seoul, Korea.. Seoul: Academy of East Asian Studies, Sungkyunkwan University, 2005. OCLC 278308380.
 * Im, Sang-hyeok. 영화와표현의자유 (Yeonghwa wa p'yohyeon eui jayu - Film and freedom of expression. Seoul: Ch'eongnim Ch'ulp'an, 2005. ISBN 8935206105.
 * Park, S.H. "Film Censorship and Political Legitimation in South Korea, 1987-1992" in Cinema Journal 42, Part 1 (2002): pp. 120-138. OCLC: 201980127.
 * Keep, but look for a better title, per Ikip and Dekkappai. The sources are quite sufficient. DGG (talk) 05:31, 11 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Rename to "Censorship in South Korea" per Ikip. PasswordUsername (talk) 12:08, 15 April 2009 (UTC)


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