Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Northern Forest Archipelago (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Michig (talk) 08:42, 11 November 2012 (UTC)

Northern Forest Archipelago
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This article is about a micronation and contains only one "source" -- a link to the organization's own former web site, which apparently no longer exists and has been purchased by somebody in Japan. (The micronation supposedly is located within the United States and its official language is supposed to be English, so the current web site apparently has no connection to the original micronation.) A prior version of this article was deleted in an AfD in 2005 but the page was re-created anyway. I recommend another deletion. Metropolitan90 (talk) 01:43, 4 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete: I'm been accused of leniency when it comes to AfD, but micronations like this put the old canard of "i was in a band in high school, we were pretty big" to shame.  Your band and your pseudo countries may be good dating material, but they do not make wikipedia articles.--Milowent • hasspoken  06:41, 4 November 2012 (UTC)
 *  I haven't decided Delete. But I did look up Lonely Planet's tour guide to micronations, and it does feature the Northern Forest Archipelago in some detail, a section of about four pages. I think that's a pretty strong claim to notability for a micronation, but I don't think I can nonvote 'keep' without at least one more source, and I haven't found that yet. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 13:28, 4 November 2012 (UTC)
 * I've changed my vote from 'undecided' to 'delete' after some more research and reflection. This article was deleted in its first AfD, and then recreated.  The subject is not more notable now than it was then - I wasn't able to find any more recent sources than those that were used in support of the older article, and in fact, since the NFA's web site appears to no longer exist, and there aren't any recent sources, it isn't clear to me whether this organization even exists any longer.  And while there's no problem with writing articles about things that no longer exist - we do have articles about USSR, Cardenio, and Douglas Adams- I'm not sure that in this case, an article is needed.  Who will search for this?  What can we tell them that we're sure is accurate? -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 16:11, 4 November 2012 (UTC)
 *  yawn Delete After you've got into a guide that only exists to publicise its 'clients', what do you do with a micronation? Non-notable like the vast majority of the others (I except ones that have a physical existence and coverage, like Sealand and Hutt River) because they do nothing and are nothing. And probably a lot of the people living next door don't even know they're living on a frontier... Peridon (talk) 13:49, 4 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Organizations-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 18:52, 4 November 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete- Although I am usually partial to micronations, this one just isn't anything special.  B zw ee bl  (talk • contribs) 19:54, 4 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete: micronations can be notable, but they really need coverage approaching that of Sealand in order to have that status. This definitely isn't anywhere close to that.  Nyttend (talk) 22:28, 6 November 2012 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.