Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Northholm Grammar School


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was Nomination withdrawn. -- Longhair\talk 06:45, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

Northholm Grammar School
< Primary schools are generally not notable, generally it is only high schools that are listed. I find no reason why this school has any reason to be listed based on its notability. It also fails the proposed guideline WP:SCHOOL TheRanger 04:24, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment "This was listed in error, at the time I thought that this was a grade school and it is in fact a high school. Based on this fact I now think that the article should be kept. I would like to withdraw my nomination.TheRanger 04:52, 18 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Very Strong KeepThis *is* an exclusive grammar high school. Pursey 04:44, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
 * What is so exclusive about this school? By reading the article, I can not gather any exclusiveness as implied by the nominator and WP:SCHOOL.Luke! 04:58, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
 * It's a Private Grammar School, likely with exhorbant fees. Grammar School in Australia also frequently have an application process or testing process to receive entry. It's a moot point anyhow, it is a High School. Pursey 05:21, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
 * The school charges tuition fees, and presumably does not admit every applicant. This provides some exclusiveness. --TruthbringerToronto (Talk | contribs) 05:23, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Based on the following being true: tuition fees are higher than the local norm and by doing so presumably do not accept every potential student. Tuition information is available at this school page. However, regional basis for comparison not available. In my belief, tuition alone does not assert a strong solid case for exclusiveness. In my view, it only marginally meets one criteria of the proposed WP:SCHOOL, point #4. Luke! 05:48, 17 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Keep. The school offers high school grades. On the school's site, http://www.northholm.nsw.edu.au/webpages/curri_curriculum.htm appears to indicate that the school offers grades 5 through 12. "Grammar school" is a synonym for elementary school in most contexts in the United States, but elsewhere it can refer to a JK-12 school, often one which charges fees. --TruthbringerToronto (Talk | contribs) 05:23, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Added grades offered to article's infobox. Luke! 05:48, 17 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Australia-related deletions.   -- Longhair\talk 08:17, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete. So we provide a free advertising space for thos schools that ask a lot of mone, but don't do the same for those that are free? That's bizarre... Being expensive is no argument for inclusion: has it received sufficient independent, non-compulsory, non-trivial coverage to show that it is somehow exceptional beyond its fee? Is it located in protected monuments? Is it the first (or last) of its kind? Has some prime minister or other truly notable person been there for a few years (as a student or even better, as a tecaher)? No? Then get rid of it, please. (Oh, and if kept, please rewrite it, as parts are very close to a copyvio of their homepage (e.g.), and the rest is probably failing WP:V rather badly, since there are no independent sources of e.g. the "Houses")Fram 14:14, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep Verifiable and notable. Nomination appears to be a mistake. Merchbow 15:37, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete But that does not imply the school does not offer an education as delightful as Hogwarts. I do not agree with the proposal that every high school in the world automatically gets an article. Mention in an article about the town is sufficient for most. Notability cannot be established only by the subject's website. There should be multiple non-trivial published works whose source is independent of the school itself. None were presented. Edison 16:50, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment &mdash; A nicely-developed page that would be unfortunate to delete. It would be good if the page could be modified to meet the WP:SCHOOLS criteria. &mdash; RJH (talk) 21:54, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep per Truthbringer Toronto, go hash this out on WP:SCHOOLS if you disagree with the current guidelines as they're proposed, please. RFerreira 00:58, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment: why should I go to WP:SCHOOLS when it is quite clear from reading the talk page that is has failed to get consensus, and doesn't seem likely to do so anytime soon? Perhaps people should stop using WP:SCHOOL as a keep argument when it is clear that the proposed guideline will never get accepted... 05:02, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

Keep though i don't agree on WP:SCHOOLS -- Ageo020 ( Talk  •  Contribs ) 01:46, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep as per Schools/Arguments --Vsion 01:16, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep per Merchbow and nomination withdrawl request. --Marriedtofilm 05:14, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep. There are some stories about this school namely at Google News Archive. . Matt Dunning, a NSW and Australian rugby player went there so it has at least one notable old boy. Capitalistroadster 05:48, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.