Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Northstar / U.S. Metal (band)


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The result was delete. Vanamonde (talk) 18:58, 16 November 2018 (UTC)

Northstar / U.S. Metal (band)

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Poorly referenced and advertorially toned article about a band, whose only evident claim of notability is that one member went on to become notable for other work later on -- but even his actual notability is in question per comments below, and that wouldn't be an article-clinching notability claim anyway, as WP:NMUSIC #6 requires two independently notable members, not just one. But there's literally nothing else here that passes NMUSIC at all ("the 2nd demo is currently floating around in the internet" is actually the closest it gets to any other NMUSIC criterion) -- and there are no reliable sources supporting any of the content. Rather, the referencing here depends entirely on unreliable fansites and WordPress blogs and user-generated discussion forums and discogs.com entries and Facebook posts, with no evidence of coverage in even one reliable or notability-supporting media outlet. As always, every band is not automatically entitled to have a Wikipedia article just because they existed -- they need to have a notability claim that passes NMUSIC and reliable source coverage about them in media to support it, but nothing here passes either part of that equation at all. Bearcat (talk) 19:27, 8 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 23:10, 8 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of California-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 23:10, 8 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete per WP:EXIST. First of all, the article's title is wrong because the band's name was simply Northstar, and something like "American metal band" should be used for disambiguation in light of another band also called Northstar. That should be fixed if the article is kept. But my vote is to delete, in total agreement with the nominator. The article uses a lot of text to say very little. It smacks of an attempt to retro-promote a band as historically important even though they barely got beyond demos when they actually existed. For more such shenanigans, see the article for their lead guy Eddie St. James. ---  DOOMSDAYER 520 (Talk&#124;Contribs) 14:16, 9 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete: as noted above, an impressive amount of mostly unsourced text and heavy name-dropping disguises the fact that this band never actually released a single record and that only three demo tracks apparently exist. Clearly with no actual product on the market, there are no reliable sources about them, but even the unreliable sources cited in the references make no mention of the band at all, save for two blog interviews with Mr. St. James, unsurprisingly. I couldn't even say that Eddie St. James went on to be notable for work later on in his career – his article is probably best redirected to Trance (band). Richard3120 (talk) 15:41, 9 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete. Per above, the band barely did anything and an encyclopedia article isn't justified. --Michig (talk) 08:38, 11 November 2018 (UTC)


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