Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Norts


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   Merged to Rogue Trooper. UltraExactZZ Said~ Did 14:08, 5 April 2017 (UTC)

Norts

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Queried speedy delete. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 18:59, 25 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Better discuss this deletion :: the Rogue Trooper scenario is well-known. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 19:02, 25 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete It was a PROD, not a speedy delete, and "Well known" is relative. It may be "well known" within the Rogue Trooper circle, but it's certainly not "well known" like Superman, Casablanca, The Great Wall of China, or the planet Mars. After Southers was originally PROD'd by with the rationale "Article on a fictional faction, written from an in-universe tone. Not a single source, and nothing that can't be covered by the article Rogue Trooper." I supported it with the statement "no indication of notability outside of the fiction, sufficiently discussed on Rogue Trooper." Because of the similarity, I copied the PROD to this article. Argento Surfer (talk) 12:53, 28 March 2017 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Pages Norts and Southers have stood since May 2006 unqueried. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 21:21, 28 March 2017 (UTC)
 * C'mon, do I really have to cite WP:LONGTIME here? Just because they've been around for a while is no argument to keep something. The article Southers doesn't have a single reference, while Norts only one is an issue of Rogue Trooper. We need independent, third-party coverage to justify an article on the two factions. There's nothing in either article that isn't already mentioned on the main article, the rest is more suitable for a personal Wiki. soetermans . ↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK 06:03, 29 March 2017 (UTC)
 * , are you actually in favor of keeping these articles, or do you just want them to go through the full AfD process because of their age? The article condition seems pretty close to Articles for deletion/Drowtales (3rd nomination), which closed on Delete. Argento Surfer (talk) 12:19, 29 March 2017 (UTC)
 * The deletion method used seemed a bit hasty, so I felt that they should go through a full AfD, whatever the result is. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 12:38, 29 March 2017 (UTC)
 * As regards references, some may say that the publications that contain the Rogue Trooper stories, are enough reference. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 21:30, 29 March 2017 (UTC)
 * To which I would respond those publications are primary sources, and only prove notability within the fiction. As such, I feel both Norts and Southers are covered in sufficient detail on the Rogue Trooper page. The level of detail on the individual pages is both excessive and insufficient - the list of "well known" Norts doesn't link to a character article or provide anything beyond a name and rank. The breakdowns of armed forces and war machines have similar problems. That leaves the History section, which duplicates material from the Rogue Trooper page. Argento Surfer (talk) 12:32, 30 March 2017 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, -- Patar knight - chat/contributions 03:26, 2 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Merge to Rogue Trooper - not notable outside the comic strip. Exemplo347 (talk) 16:37, 2 April 2017 (UTC)
 * ✅ Norts and Southers are now text-merged to Rogue Trooper. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 05:38, 5 April 2017 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.