Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Norvall Jerome Pickett


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. JForget 22:41, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Norvall Jerome Pickett

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Article is about a small-town preacher who had no apparent claim to notability outside his own congregation. No Google hits outside WP, mirrors and genealogy websites. — Bdb484 (talk) 00:03, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

NOTE: This article has conflict of interest issues as well.


 * This is the referrer's (User:Bdb484) second attempt to remove this article. Referrer deleted multiple references in article before this request was made. They have been replaced. There are numerous genealogy hits referring to the subject's officiating at funerals of noted persons in communities, even though most of the subject's career was before the internet. I can list these if needed. If I had ability to query newspaper articles from 1940 onwards there would be a much larger number of references.


 * Subject of article was well known in many communities in Southern California, performed marriages, funerals, and other ceremonies for important persons in those communities, served on community organizations and boards, and was the featured speaker at graduations and commencements at high schools and universities. He built and/or improved worship facilities in many communities that are still being used today. There are thousands of persons living in Southern California that have known this subject and had their lives touched by him in some way. He is an historical figure in those communities and for those organizations and churches which he served. These events occurred before the advent of the internet (retired 1985) so there would be little to no record of them on the internet. DavidPickett (talk) 04:07, 31 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete, this person doesn't look notable at all. Being at the funeral of someone notable doesn't make one notable. I'm open to new evidence. Irbisgreif (talk) 04:42, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete - Wikipedia relies on verifiability, not truth. WP:V is one of the core policies of Wikipedia and it's just about the only thing that gives the encyclopedia any credibility. You need to prove the information with reliable sources. If they aren't available then the article can't be in the encyclopedia, I'm sorry. If the article is deleted as a result of this discussion then that just means that you'd have to locate such sources before attempting to have the article restored. Deletion isn't a permanent thing, and it also isn't any judgment against your father, in this case it just means we can't back up the information so it doesn't belong. I strongly suggest visiting WP:WMD for advice on how to handle the process, my talk page is available as well if you have any questions. --  At am a chat 05:56, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete: As the son of a minister myself, I know how important they are to the communities they serve, however very few of them meet the standards of WP:NOTABILITY. I understand the urge to create the article (I've thought about one for my father before), but if it doesn't meet the Notability standards, then we can't keep it. Frmatt (talk) 06:02, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.