Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Norway–Romania relations


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The result was   Withdrawing nomination in light of substantial improvement to article. LibStar (talk) 02:20, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

Norway–Romania relations

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although the 2 countries have embassies, there is a distinct lack of coverage of actual bilateral relations, mainly multilateral and sport. yes they've signed a climate change agreement and a heavy water incident in 1988 but not much else. Various sporting results, and a Romanian hacker causing disruption in Oslo do not advance notability although I know at least 1 editor who would think so. LibStar (talk) 09:34, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I can't think of any notable ties at the moment. It fits better with Norwegian foreign policy when the other country is a (a) neighboring country, (b) peace endeavors or (c) a third-world country with substantial aid relations. Geschichte (talk) 12:56, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep Relations are not as close as some countries but sources exist in their relative languages to link the two countries. Dr. Blofeld       White cat 16:13, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
 * What sources? Link how? I've had a Romanian athletics coach, but I can't think of any other obvious ties... must be about street criminals in Oslo hailing from Romania... Geschichte (talk) 20:12, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete No significant independant coverage of the topic as a whole. -- Blue Squadron  Raven  04:51, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Weak delete. Closer than most of these to relevence because they at least have embassies. But I don't see evidence of an actual notable relationship. Athough the Romanians did participate in the 1994 Winter Olympics held in Norway. Maybe someone will assert that as notable. Niteshift36 (talk) 07:00, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep. . That's what I could find in English in a few minutes with Google News. I've only skimmed the surface of the readily available sources there, and haven't even started looking in Romanian and Norwegian. Phil Bridger (talk) 15:45, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Again we run into the mistaken notion that coverage of individual events equals coverage of the topic. It does not. Never has. Re-read WP:GNG. -- Blue Squadron  Raven  16:51, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
 * How is coverage a subset of the topic not part of coverage of the topic itself? Yes, different sources cover different subsets, but pulling them together, as long as no original conclusions are drawn from the combination of sources, is exactly what encyclopedias do. Anyway, out of the sources that I listed, several give general coverage of the countries' bilateral relations - those that do so and are available without payment/subscription include this and this. Phil Bridger (talk) 17:30, 30 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep. I added the sources identified above as external links in the article, giving date and publisher and sorting by general topic and date. Makes it a bit easier to see what content is available. I can't see any relevance to the "Sports & miscellaneous" content, but left the links for now, for the record. Otherwise, there is a record of the predictable and routine bi-lateral meetings and agreements, and information about economic links. Nothing very surprising, but enough independent sources commenting on aspects of the relationship to show notability. The article still needs expansion. I may tinker with it. Aymatth2 (talk) 19:36, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
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