Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Norwegian hip hop


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. Without prejudice toward future recreation iff the issues identified here are corrected (possibly including changing the article title). Beeblebrox (talk) 02:32, 29 December 2010 (UTC)

Norwegian hip hop

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Apart from all the original research there seems to be little left of this article. meco (talk) 09:57, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Norway-related deletion discussions.  —meco (talk) 09:57, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions.  —meco (talk) 09:57, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep. I agree with the nominator that "Norwegian hip hop", after the chaff is winnowed from the article, it may appear to be a non sequitur; but, in 2010, Hip hop is global. Article should be improved, not deleted. I see "about 146,000 results" for a Google search for "Norwegian hip hop". Amidst that number, there will be significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject.--Shirt58 (talk) 11:29, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
 * So please cite three to prove your case. You haven't even bothered to exclude mirrors of this very article and other Wikipedia pages from your search (which the hyperlink at the top of this discussion does).  The page count is entirely meaningless, by the way, and tells us nothing at all.  Search engine test and several related pages explain this.  You say that these sources exist.  Please cite some of them that your searches turn up.  Sources!  Sources!  Sources!  Uncle G (talk) 12:00, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment. Billboard (December 11, 1999) has a good few hundred words about the subject in the article "Tommy Tee Showcases Norway's Allstars" on pages 47 and 50, and the academic journal Kirke og Kultur 105 (3), 195–207 has a 13-page paper by one C. P. Opsahl (which I have not read) entitled "Blant mikrofonriddere og platerittere. Selvpresentasjon i Norsk hip hop" [Among microphone knights and record riders. Self-presentation in Norwegian hip-hop]. Phil Bridger (talk) 20:52, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment: Most hits for "Norwegian hip hop" is for a trivial coupling of the terms. As it happens it's Norwegian, and it's hip hop. If this article shall stay, it needs to demonstrate that this is its own subject; that "Norwegian hip hop" is a style and concept in itself, different from most/all other styles of hip hop. Geschichte (talk) 23:54, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Not necessarily. We could simply rename it to Hip hop in Norway (we have the same problem with Norwegian rock). __meco (talk) 14:05, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:50, 21 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Delete, not an article at this point in time. Geschichte (talk) 15:59, 25 December 2010 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.