Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nosaina Pokana


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The result was   delete all. Biblio worm  19:57, 26 December 2015 (UTC)

Nosaina Pokana

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This cricketer hasn't played First Class / List A / Twenty20 format. Hence not notable. Fenopy (talk) 19:39, 12 December 2015 (UTC)

I am also nominating the following related pages because of the same reason stated above:



Fenopy (talk) 20:02, 12 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Varies - Rao, Gauci and Pattison are a clear delete as I don't find anything other than stats/profile listing sites so there's no independent coverage to justify them meeting the GNG. Coverage for Pokana and Kapoor is limited - the one article that's cited on the article pages is about it. On balance I don't think that's the multiple sources required to meet the GNG.
 * Healy has a tonne of coverage - for example here, here. [ http://www.thatscricket.com/news/2014/08/25/ian-healy-s-son-tom-australia-under-19-squad-072417.html here (to an extent)], here, here and here at least. A lot of that is down to his father of course, but the coverage is focussing on him and there are decent, independent sources in there - miles better than cricket stats sites. I'd say a case could be made for keep for him.
 * I'd also say the same case could be made to keep Page as well - sources here, here and here for example. There don't seem as many sources as for Healy and if he fails to develop then we may want to revisit the article in a few years and question his notability per se, but there's a case that at present he meets the GNG due to there being a number of direct, reliable and independent sources which consider him as their major focus.
 * Which suggests that each case should be judged on merit and not just because they've not played a first class oops "major", cricket match, Blue Square Thing (talk) 20:49, 12 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment Tendulkar's son who is covered in multiple sources had his article deleted here last year... Fenopy (talk) 21:34, 12 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment - see WP:AON Blue Square Thing (talk) 22:04, 12 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete all. All fail the WP:CRIN notability guideline as they have not played at first-class, List A or Twenty20 level. The Aussie players can always be recreated as and when they make appearances at a senior level, whereas the two Canadians most likely won't be playing at a senior level anytime soon, given Canada's rapid descent down the international ladder. PinchHittingLeggy (talk) 11:48, 13 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Healy, at least, very, very clearly meets the GNG. It's not even close. To rely on a quantitative criteria when there is extraordinarily clear qualitative evidence that someone is notable as a human being is ridiculous. Blue Square Thing (talk) 16:33, 13 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Hardly strong sources for implying notability, they all rabble on about how he hopes to replicate his fathers achievements. No different to the Arjun Tendulkar AfD. PinchHittingLeggy (talk) 17:30, 13 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Australia-related deletion discussions. Grahame (talk) 01:04, 14 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Cricket-related deletion discussions. Grahame (talk) 01:04, 14 December 2015 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete all bar Healy, Merge/Redirect him to Ian Healy, as their junior cricket performances aren't notable. The-Pope (talk) 03:30, 14 December 2015 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 09:35, 19 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete all All of them are only youth internationals, there is no attempt to confer notability in any of the articles. Seasider91 (talk) 19:43, 19 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete all bar Healy and Merge/Redirect him to Ian Healy per The-Pope. This is the most sensible solution. It is argued that Healy meets GNG and, given multiple sources I would agree that he does if you take a Boolean line on the matter, but his press coverage is attributable to the fame of his father and so, in his case, I believe NCRIC to be the more objective arbiter. The-Pope is spot on. Jack | talk page 09:56, 20 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Actually I think I"m convinced of that argument now - thank you both. It's Page who's now giving me more thought - the coverage there is significantly independent. I might take a go at that article later. Blue Square Thing (talk) 10:37, 20 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete all per failure to meet WP:CRIN and/or the GNG. Healy can be mentioned in his father's article, but I wouldn't bother with a redirect.  IgnorantArmies  (talk)  17:55, 20 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete all None of them (currently) meet WP:NCRIC. I suspect most, if not all of them one day will, so no issue of the biographies being recreated when they do play FC/List A in the future.  Lugnuts  Dick Laurent is dead 11:15, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete  all as they Fail WP:NCRIC and WP:GNG.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 00:00, 25 December 2015 (UTC)


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