Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Not a Saint


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. The Bushranger One ping only 02:01, 7 February 2013 (UTC)

Not a Saint

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 * Does not appear to meet notability requirements of WP:NMUSIC or WP:GNG as it is a single released by a minor artist which has not attracted any substantial mainstream press coverage. Both this article and Vato Gonzalez's main article are referenced mostly to chart websites and self-published sites such as youtube. Baldy Bill (talk) 22:12, 23 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions. &#9733;&#9734;  DUCK IS PEANUTBUTTER &#9734;&#9733; 23:15, 24 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Keep You may need to re-acquaint yourself with NMUSIC - Meets Criteria 2, on 3 separate charts, no less. Also, chart websites are considered reliable secondary sources.   Th e S te ve   06:12, 25 January 2013 (UTC)
 * My apologies TheSteve, I should have written WP:NALBUMS not NMUSIC. The article for deletion is about a single that doesn't appear to have any of its own notability, and single/album notability is not inherited from the singer. I was definitely not proposing deletion of the singer, he meets notability criteria having made multiple chart entries. Baldy Bill (talk) 17:04, 26 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Its not an album, its a single, and it reached number 1 on the UK Indie Charts. That's enough, although I wouldn't really have an objection to merging it somewhere.  Has he made an album yet?    Th e S te ve   07:39, 27 January 2013 (UTC)
 * OK, I didn't want to cause any grief for anyone, and I have nothing against the artist or his work. I am aware that it is a single (as above "the article for deletion is about a single") and the guidance under WP:NSONG states that the song may be notable if it enters on a recognised chart, not that it is notable. I was flagging it for discussion as the main guideline just above under WP:NALBUMS is "All articles on albums, singles or other recordings must meet the basic criteria at the notability guidelines, with significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject." All the references offered are: 1) youtube of the song's video; 2-4) just a list entry on a chart website (hardly significant coverage) and 5) a basic listing for download on iTunes with user-published comments. If the community consensus is that the song is notable, for example a full review of it in a published music mag is found, then I am more than happy to go with that. Tens of thousands of songs have appeared in the UK charts but not each one is notable for a standalone article; so I would support your proposal of a merge (and redirect) into Vato_Gonzalez. Baldy Bill (talk) 14:02, 27 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Keep Because of its chart performance it meets WP:NSONG, if it was a track from an album or even from a single performer I might agree to a redirect but since there is no obvious target would certainly keep. J04n(talk page) 15:38, 30 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  MBisanz  talk 02:53, 31 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Keep Charting at #1 on a chart listed at WP:CHARTS is a fairly notable achievement and would seem to meet WP:NSONG (even though chart placement is under discussion). Mkdw talk 00:24, 6 February 2013 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.