Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Notable National Basketball Association games televised by NBC


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The result was delete.  Kurykh  23:51, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

Notable National Basketball Association games televised by NBC

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Although many people seem to enjoy editing this page, its premise of "Notable games" is pure navel-gazing. If the games are so notable, why don't they have articles? This sort of thing is just an opportunity for walking sports encyclopedias to talk to themselves. Absolutely no citations appear in the article, and they would be endlessly argued if they did. Speciate 08:32, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete I dont see why these games are any more special because they were broadcast by NBC?  Corpx 15:22, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete. "Notable game" is subjective, and intersecting that criteria with "Aired by NBC" is frivolous.  ɑʀкʏɑɴ 16:10, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Strong Delete Why? why? why?!? What makes a game notable, and why just NBC?  James   Luftan  contribs 17:20, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete: 100% subjective, and as such lists do, the accretion of games which are the personal favorites of numerous editors will gather like barnacles.   RGTraynor  18:27, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep There's a set of articles about NBA games; why it's sorted into "Games broadcast by CBS" (1972-90) and "Games broadcast by NBC (1990-present), I don't know. As with NFL games, most people see them on TV rather than in person.  How many people are voting on this because it has NBC in its title?  Mandsford 23:44, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment: Zero, in all likelihood. Kindly assume good faith.   RGTraynor  12:54, 7 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Reply Sorry, kindly assuming good faith doesn't mean I have to avoid all possibility of offending anyone. Odd, isn't it, how we're all free to verbally beat the shit out of the author of an article, but if someone questions our argument, we can hide behind "good faith".  I can dish it out as well as I can take it.  Mandsford 15:42, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment: It sure does mean that you can avoid suggesting that the only reason anyone could oppose such an article is anti-NBC bias; no one's likely to swallow the straw man argument equating the two.  As far as dishing it out goes, you've an impressive number of civility warnings for having been here only three months.    RGTraynor  17:49, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

In one of those things I thought about later, "good faith" only applies to the nominator and the nomination. I am under zero obligation to "assume good faith" on the part of arguments... indeed, I have had persons describe some of my arguments as ridiculous, and I'm cool with that. I am under an obligation to remain civil. In that regard, I will not issue commands to other people; I'm afraid that I don't agree that preceding a command with the word "Kindly..." renders it civil. However, I thank you for your kind words, they are much appreciated. Mandsford 22:38, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks! I knew I was impressive, but still, I'm honored that anyone would care enough to check out the last three months of my postings.  I assume it's all in good faith, so I appreciate the interest.  And hey, I haven't gotten any less caustic in the past year either, if you know what I mean.  Some have said recently that there's a "civility hit squad" of some sort out there, but I'm not going to let that scare me.  I accept that I shouldn't give civility lessons to anybody.
 * Delete a list of NBA games is fine, but why a list of "NBA games broadcasted by NBC"? The short summaries provided at every game have to do with the game, not with the way it was broadcast. Therefore, this title makes no sense, and the info should be merged into the relevant articles (or an article should be created for the notable games).  Mel sa  ran  20:19, 11 August 2007 (UTC)


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