Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nothnegal (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Keep as withdrawn by nominator

Nothnegal
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 * Keep: Withdrawing as nominator after sources for the article appear by kind editors below. I don't mind having to strike my comments is an article got a major overhaul as a result :) ♪ daTheisen(talk) 15:36, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

Placed article for discussion after PROD tag was removed without reason given. After some research into this and similar articles, I've been unable to find any apparent reliable third-party sources to use as references. There are no citations used in the article to suggest or affirm notability, and no Wikipedia articles extended or linking in appear to grant notability by legacy. ♪ daTheisen(talk) 19:39, 31 October 2009 (UTC)


 * *Comment: This article only links to others within Wikipedia that seem to be of the same very narrow subject and scope, and give the appearance of a self-referencing group of bombardment articles maintained by the same limited number of editors. I decided to put a few articles up for discussion versus jumping to conclusions and trying to make a wider report. ♪ daTheisen(talk) 19:41, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: The article has been deleted by AfD before, but since it has been a fair amount of time I didn't want to tag it as merely a recreation. ♪ daTheisen(talk) 19:41, 31 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.  — J04n(talk page) 21:43, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

STRONG KEEP — i went through wikipedia's: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:MUSIC#Criteria_for_musicians_and_ensembles

and according to its:


 * (6th criteria (which Nothnegal passes clearly): (nothnegal do have:) two or more independently notable musicians, (both these musicians are:) members of two or more independently notable ensembles.

and they do pass the 1st, 2nd criterias as well. nothnegal's news have been covered on places like blabbermouth.net (Blabbermouth.net, described by the London Free Press as a "reliable industry and fan site",[1] is widely recognized as an authority on heavy metal and hard rock. It has been cited as a source by the London Free Press,[1] New Musical Express,[7][8] MTV.com[9][10] the Toronto Sun,[11][12] the Baltic News Service,[13] the St. Petersburg Times,[14] News.com.au,[15] and OC Weekly[16]. -- source: blabbermouth.net and more like Metal Storm (webzine) to name some:  1- http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=113435 2- http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=129636 3- http://www.metalstorm.ee/events/news_comments.php?news_id=8073 4- http://www.bravewords.com/news/105615
 * (1st criteria: Has been the subject of multiple non-trivial published works whose source is independent from the musician or ensemble itself and reliable)

noted festival caos emergente's website and myspace confirms that Nothnegal performed on their festival in Portugal and according to blabbermouth.net, Nothnegal was also part of another festival that was held in Romania which also had notable bands in its lineup.  1- http://www.caos-emergente.com (refer to 'artists 2009' page) 2- http://www.myspace.com/caosemergente  3- http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendId=78857058&blogId=506598688 (concert poster)  4 - http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/Blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=126386  5 - http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/Blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=120217
 * (2nd criteria: Has received non-trivial coverage in a reliable source of an international concert tour, or a national concert tour in at least one sovereign country)

--Mv head (talk) 07:36, 1 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Speedy Keep — blabbermouth.net alone have plenty of articles covering Nothnegal: http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/Blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Search&searchtext=nothnegal&x=0&y=0

A news article of Nothnegal is on blabbermouth.net's front page as we speak!


 * SPEEDY KEEP — I strongly support to keep this article as this is about a band that have recognized notable musicians in their lineup, have got coverage from reliable media sources like blabbermouth.net and also have performed in international concerts or tours which have had coverage from reliable media. --Ntxdr (talk) 12:55, 1 November 2009 (UTC)


 * *Waiting: blabbermouth is down? At least I can't connect to the front page. Listed there with side articles is good, but front page to that high-traffic a site? I'll submit for Admin to close as keep per my withdrawing once it's back up. ...Thanks for finding all the info though, really. I'd rather know an article gets improved than dies. ♪ daTheisen(talk) 13:45, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
 * blabbermouth is not down, try http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/Blabbermouth.net/index.aspx thats the front page. Nothnegal's article is still there on the front page news. check that out. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.104.24.239 (talk) 14:36, 1 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Alright! -- this is more than enough. If they'll get a news post to the front page, no issues with any article posted there since this proves it obviously isn't a one-time media blurb. Going to strike my above comments and close for Keep as withdrawn. ♪ daTheisen(talk) 15:20, 1 November 2009 (UTC)


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