Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Notre Dame Glee Club


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The result was   keep. Contact me for a history delete once the article is cleaned up — Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:50, 10 March 2013 (UTC)

Notre Dame Glee Club

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A run-of-the-mill university glee club. Fails Music. No third party sources to establish notability under WP:GNG. GrapedApe (talk) 00:47, 22 February 2013 (UTC)
 * WP:MILL is an essay that talks about local branches of banks that have been robbed, so equating a nationally and internationally known touring choir in existence for 100 years with this essay is a specious argument. Unscintillating (talk) 23:33, 9 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Indiana-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 01:07, 22 February 2013 (UTC)
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 * Delete - Lack of general notability, this organization or project is not relevant externally to the university. Eduemoni↑talk↓ </b> 02:10, 22 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep This Google News archive search produces lots of results, most of them are just announcements of performances but some appear to constitute significant coverage: Notre Dame Glee Club Well-Trained Group - LA Times, Large Audience Hears Notre Dame Glee Club - Lewiston Evening Journal. There is also a lot of coverage on Google Books.  --Cerebellum (talk) 15:43, 1 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   09:27, 2 March 2013 (UTC)

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 * Keep - Meets WP:GNG per, , (paywalled). Northamerica1000(talk) 21:05, 2 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment - !keep votes point to show reviews, which is routine coverage. One can find similar coverage of every stop on Lady Gaga's tour, but that doesn't mean that every show is notable.  --GrapedApe (talk) 12:50, 4 March 2013 (UTC)
 * True, but it would indicate that Lady Gaga is notable. Those reviews seem to me to satisfy WP:BAND criterion #1.  --Cerebellum (talk) 03:58, 5 March 2013 (UTC)
 * WP:ROUTINE is related to the policy WP:NOT, and a choir is not an event. Unscintillating (talk) 23:33, 9 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Keep Passes WP:GNG, which is not a surprise that a group from a university with high name recognition, that has been around for one hundred years, and regularly tours both the U.S. and internationally, has attracted attention from the world at large.  This article has major problems with both WP:V and WP:NPOV, and some identical quotes when comparing ( and ) which are an attribution problem, so these content issues make this decision close to a delete and redirect for me.  But the material referenced by the one reference in the article is valuable and not easily rewritten, thus the article is not "worthless", thus a deletion of the edit history would do unrecoverable damage to the encyclopedia.  Also, there is no convenient target for the redirect.  Unscintillating (talk) 23:33, 9 March 2013 (UTC)
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