Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Novie Edwards


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The result was delete. No evidence of notability. –  Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 00:15, 13 August 2015 (UTC)

Novie Edwards

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Declined speedy: I do not think that the very slender claim to notability is sufficient, and cannot find anything online to make me change my opinion. TheLongTone (talk) 14:45, 21 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep:- Lead role in a notable award-winning film entitled Cyberchase and appearance in 45 episodes in the multi award-winning Canadian animated reality television series, entitled Total Drama aired in multiple countries. In addition, she had been cited in several books as a notable voice actress such as this book, this one, Encyclopedia of Television Show, this book, More Theatre: Stage to Screen to Television, 1993 - 2001, Television cartoon shows: an illustrated encyclopedia, 1949 to mention few. Wikic¤l¤gyt@lk to M£ 00:22, 22 July 2015 (UTC)
 * WP:NACTOR does not give an actor or actress a notability freebie just because they've had roles in film or television. It requires reliable source coverage about them. Bearcat (talk) 18:40, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Lead role in notable films are enough to meet WP:NACTOR. Every actors doesn't have to win an award to be notable. Wikic¤l¤gyt@lk to M£ 21:38, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
 * I didn't say every actor has to win an award to be notable. But if a Wikipedia article is resting its claim of notability entirely on a single source which merely namechecks their existence, then that source does have to be a list of award winners to get them over NACTOR by itself as the article's only source. If the notability claim is just "exists as an actor who has had roles", then you have to source them well enough to pass WP:GNG. An award isn't what it takes to get an actor into Wikipedia at all — we have lots of articles about actors who've never won awards, some of which I even started myself — but an award is what it takes to park her eligibility for a Wikipedia article on anything less than a GNG-satisfying volume of sourcing in which she's substantively the subject of the references. Bearcat (talk) 22:04, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. &mdash;&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·E·C) 02:40, 22 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Canada-related deletion discussions. &mdash;&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·E·C) 02:41, 22 July 2015 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Phantom Steve / talk &#124; contribs \ 16:28, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
 * An actor or actress does not get a notability freebie on Wikipedia just because they exist. If their notability can be hitched to winning a major acting award (Oscar, Emmy, CanScreen, etc.), then a single source which namechecks their status as a winner is enough to start an article with — but if the notability claim is "had roles" (something which is true of every actor in existence, because they wouldn't be actors if they'd never acted), then you have to source the article well enough to satisfy WP:GNG, and one "briefly namechecking their existence in a source which is otherwise not about them" reference is not enough to get them over the bar in and of itself. Delete, without prejudice against recreation if it can be sourced better than this. Bearcat (talk) 18:40, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
 * A voice actor is notable if he/she had significant roles in multiple notable films, television shows, stage performances, or other productions. Wikic¤l¤gyt@lk to M£ 21:38, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Not if those roles can't be reliably sourced with anything more than an IMDb link, they aren't. Reliable source coverage, not simple verification of existence, is what it takes to get an actor into Wikipedia. Bearcat (talk) 21:57, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
 * added a couple of books. Wikic¤l¤gyt@lk to M£ 22:23, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, JAaron95  Talk  10:09, 4 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete: I was conflicted on this one, but this voice actor has had only two somewhat significant roles. Her role on Cyberchase was undoubtedly significant, and the show is notable. Her role on Total Drama spanned over 50 episodes of a notable show, but she appeared as part of an ensemble that consisted of over a dozen "main" characters in each season. Her role was on the line between significant and not, in my opinion. I think she may barely pass WP:NACTOR, but we have to treat that with some common sense. NACTOR results in presumed notability, but in this case, we have a modern voice actor with zero substantial coverage online. We've only found her name on lists of credits. A modern voice actor is exactly the type of subject you would expect to find coverage about online if such coverage existed, so the fact that her name turns up nothing substantial suggests she almost certainly doesn't pass WP:GNG, and likely comes nowhere close. NACTOR was not meant to justify the inclusion of a sentence-long stub on a voice actor with one-and-a-half significant roles and no coverage at all beyond the credits themselves. ~ RobTalk 07:34, 12 August 2015 (UTC)


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