Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nowhere Boys (Hong Kong band)


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The result was no consensus. T. Canens (talk) 14:42, 21 January 2017 (UTC)

Nowhere Boys (Hong Kong band)

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Fails WP:BAND. Refs which work, note them as new band. Single trade source in Esquire HK is interview with new ref. scope_creep (talk) 17:01, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 18:30, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Hong Kong-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 18:30, 30 December 2016 (UTC)

Keep per the significant coverage in reliable sources.  The article notes: "When Van Chan formed his band over a year ago, he decided Nowhere Boys would be the perfect name. “We’re not well-known in Hong Kong, but we’re working hard,” he says. The quintet – Chan on vocals, guitarist Kenneth Angus, keyboardist/violinist Fisher Kan, bassist Hansun Chan and drummer Nate Wong – describes their sound as “cinematic rock” genre – music inspired by movies. ... In July last year, they released their self-titled debut EP, featuring six songs mostly recorded in their homes with their own equipment. They spent HK$70,000 on mixing, printing and making music videos, yet saw it as just a passion project and didn’t expect any commercial success.  To their surprise, it landed a No 5 spot on the iTunes and No 4 on Apple Music Canto-pop charts within its first week.  Their songs were played on local radio, and the 1,000 copies they printed were gone in three months. Soon after, they got signed to Frenzi Music."  The article notes: "成立半年就已經出碟的Nowhere Boys把自已定位為Cinematic Rock，這張全在成員家中錄音的專輯，每首歌的編曲都像編劇在說故事，起承轉合讓你目不睱給. 他們的隊名也跟講述John Lennon的電影《Nowhere Boy》有關，電影有一幕提到John Lennon年少時曾被老師大潑冷水，向他說:「You are going nowhere.」當時John Lennon回應：「It’s nowhere full of genisues.」主音Van覺得這句對白洽似他們樂隊的精神，希望五位寂寂無名的成員有一日可以到達「full of geniuses」的目的地. 開場的〈狂想曲〉把Hip Hop、Church、西班牙結他、Baroque Classical、搖滾和蘇聯式行軍音樂共冶一爐，是碟內最花功夫的一首歌，雖然五花八門，但這首講他們音樂理念的歌毫無違和感；這種塔倫天奴式的瘋狂延續到〈4, 3, 2.5〉，把你帶到美國西部一個婚禮現場，遇上瘋狂鎗手大肆破壞，成員Fisher還在錄音中途忽發奇想，把私伙汽鎗掏出來，即席把扳機的聲音加進歌內；有人說電影是逃離現實的出口，主音Van就在〈The Boy Who Wouldn’t Grow Up〉中，跟著Peter Pan，在無憂的節奏中在夜空翱翔；靈感同樣來自卡通的〈Castle In The Sky〉本來是Van講述童年時想逃避欺凌的作品，但上年雨傘革命為這首歌添上多一層意義，他們參考了《天空之城》主題曲的Chord Progression，希望大家能乘著翼動的節奏離開欺壓，去到像天空之城的理想彼方." From Google Translate: "The six-year-old Nowhere Boys has positioned itself as Cinematic Rock, a full-length album recorded in a member's house. Each song's arrangement is like a playwright who tells stories and lets you turn. John Lennon said: 'You are going nowhere.' John Lennon responded by saying: 'It's a lot of fun. Nowhere full of genisues. 'The vocalist Van felt that the dialogue was like the spirit of their band, hoping that the five unknown members would one day be able to reach the destination of' full of geniuses '. Hip Hop, Church, Spanish guitar, Baroque Classical, rock and Soviet marching music is a song of the most effort, although the variety of music, but this song about their musical ideas The Tarantino-style madness continues to <4, 3, 2.5>, to take you to a wedding scene in the western United States, the crazy gunmen wantonly destroyed, the members of Fisher also recording midway suddenly whim, The private gas gun pulled out, impromptu trigger voice added to the song; some people say that the film is to escape the reality of exports, vocal Van in , followed by Peter Pan, The inspiration also comes from the cartoon's  Van was originally about childhood want to escape bullying works, but the umbrella revolution last year to add a layer of meaning for the song, they refer to the 'sky of the City 'theme song Chord Progression, I hope we can ride the rhythm of the wing move away from oppression, go to the ideal city like the other side of the sky."  The article notes: "新進樂隊Nowhere Boys於今年初正式成軍，成員包括主音Van、鍵琴手魚佬、結他手Ken、鼓手Nate及低音結他手Hansun，雖然樂隊歷資尚淺，但五位成員嘅音樂功力深厚，有成員大學時期主修音樂表演，亦有成員自小學習各類樂器，五人來自唔同嘅背景，但最終一拍即合，講到樂隊組成契機，Van話：「一次喺電影音樂騷上我識咗Nate，咁啱就jam咗首歌，佢就搵我組隊band，於是我喺我識嘅人裏面搵到呢班人. 」 要喺云云樂隊中突圍而出，Nowhere Boys有明確定位：「我哋玩『電影式搖滾』，因為成員本身玩音樂嘅風格唔同，同一時間玩live都有好多唔同聲效，希望做到每一首歌都有唔同嘅故事，聽完一首歌就好似睇咗一套電影，而我哋嘅音樂都比較大眾化，希望任何人聽到都會喜歡我哋. 」問到家人對全職做音樂嘅睇法，建築師出身嘅Van笑言其他成員一早同家人「傾掂數」，身為唯一「半途出家」嘅成員，佢大方分享：「因為我已經完成咗佢哋想我做嘅嘢，都做咗好多年正職建築師，所以好想做一啲自己想做嘅嘢，咁啱有一班樂手好夾得埋，於是我同家人講辭咗呢份工. 」" From Google Translate: "The new band, Nowhere Boys, was formed early this year with vocalist Van, guitarist Ken, guitarist Nate and bassist Hansun. Although the orchestra is still in the limelight, the five members But the final hit it off, talked about the composition opportunity of the band, Van words: 'a show at the music of music on the show. I am a student of the music scene, Knowing Nate, I just found the band, so I got it out of the box. ' Nowhere Boys has a clear positioning: 'I play' film rock ', because the members themselves play music style is different, at the same time have a lot of play live sound different, hope to do every A song has a different story, listening to a song like a movie, and my music is more popular, I hope anyone will like to hear me. 'Asked his family to do full-time music Van, the architect of Van origin, other members of the family early in the morning, 'dumping count', as the only 'halfway home' members, Drainage generous to share: 'because I have completed the channel I want to do, I had to work as an architect for many years, so I wanted to do something I wanted to do. I had a good band of music players, so I went to work with my family."  The article notes: "Hong Kong band Nowhere Boys has been on a high lately. Since releasing their first EP Nowhere Boys in July, the five-piece cinematic rock outfit has performed at Freespace Happening in the West Kowloon Cultural District, Backstage Live (which closed down this summer) and Orange Peel, and alongside the likes of Eman Lam and Supper Moment. Consisting of Van Chan, Nate Wong, Fisher Kan, Hansun Chan and Kenneth Angus, the band is playing at Swire Properties’ Crossovers – Thursday Live at Via Fiori in Quarry Bay on November 26 and will be promoting their Music Bee crowdfunding campaign for their upcoming album at the Fringe Club on November 20." Baccarat Magazine has editorial oversight according to http://www.baccarat-magazine.com/about-baccarat/.WebCite <li> The article notes: "樂隊Nowhere Boys隊員分別是負責主唱Van、鼓手Nate、結他手Kenneth、琴手Fisher和低音結他手Hansun，他們的全新音樂概念能將5子的特色都展現出來，「最開始夾的時候，沒有想過會玩什麼類型. 大家一玩起來，發現都很有特點，感覺就像是電影的背景音樂，那次之後，就覺得玩什麼的音樂都可以. 」 ... 對於Nowhere Boys來說，舞台就是他們最享受的地方，因為和觀眾一起玩，「其實我們有很多歌詞和故事都有現場感，就像一個音樂劇那樣，有些位置會有對白，可能會讓人覺得有些老土. 但是我們並不這麼覺得，在說對白的那一刻就將觀眾帶入故事中，知道會發生什麼事，將音樂現實化. 」除了加入對白，他們還會思考有什麼動作配合歌曲，或者會即場表演，其實早在創作歌曲的時候，已經有這個考慮，「其實我們每做一首歌，第一件事就會想，在Live的時候如何做，有什麼位置可以玩. 」" From Google Translate: "The band Nowhere Boys is the lead singer Van, drummer Nate, guitarist Kenneth, Fisher and bass guitarist Hansun, their new music concept can be 5 sub-features are displayed, 'the beginning of the folder, We did not think about what type of play.We all play up and found very characteristics, I feel like the background music of the film, after that, I feel what music can play. For Nowhere Boys, the stage is where they enjoy the most, because with the audience to play, 'In fact, we have a lot of lyrics and stories have a sense of the scene, like a musical, as some locations will have dialogue, may make people But we do not think so, in the dialogue that moment will the audience into the story, know what will happen, the music reality. 'In addition to adding dialogue, they will think about what action with Songs, or on the spot performances, in fact, as early as in the creation of songs, have this consideration, 'In fact, each of us to do a song, the first thing will think, how to do when Live, what position can play. '"</li> </ol>There is sufficient coverage in reliable sources to allow Nowhere Boys to pass Notability, which requires "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject". Cunard (talk) 10:35, 2 January 2017 (UTC) </li></ul>

<div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep - As mentioned above, I believe the band has received sufficient coverage from multiple independent sources. In addition, two prominent Hong Kong news outlets also ran pieces on them: Apple Daily and Oriental Daily. --Rhapsodic (talk) 21:33, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete as what's simply available are announcements, listings and interviews, and this is all for a barely 1 year old band hence nothing but said triviality as sources. I concur with the nomination in that none of this established the needed substance and simply because it's a major publication name is not automatically bestowing them notability. At best, all of this still suggests it's too soon. SwisterTwister   talk  00:01, 4 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Comment I think the comment by Cunard reinforces my point. Large coverage doesn't automatically confer notability. There must be substance. All the links merely show is that marketing skits have been sent out successfully by PR, to get the band noticed. They show the band is exceedingly young and fails WP:BAND. scope_creep (talk) 11:06, 4 January 2017 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, –  Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 00:12, 7 January 2017 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep. Cunard's searches above persuade me that there is already sufficient biographical coverage in independent reliable sources. Deryck C. 12:27, 9 January 2017 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, T. Canens (talk) 09:12, 14 January 2017 (UTC)


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