Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nowlin Middle School


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was keep, due to the finding of many sources. Wizardman 03:20, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

Nowlin Middle School

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This is an article about a Middle school that does not indicate the importance of said school. CastAStone//(talk) 17:36, 31 December 2007 (UTC) *Redirect to Kansas City, Missouri School District to where I have merged the content. TerriersFan (talk) 19:05, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete Bare bones directory listing. Somebody has removed the AfD template, though. Strandwolf (talk) 17:53, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Weak delete AfD Removed by the author User:Dj crunk I'm afraid. I have reinstated.Paste (talk) 17:55, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
 * DeleteYou don't think the middle school would be important for the people that go there? Besides that, there really isn't any reason for this article, and thus I say delete.Tavix (talk) 18:01, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
 * comment User Dj crunk removed the Afd again. I've restored it and put a warning on his talk page.--Pmedema (talk) 18:03, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions.   -- --  pb30 < talk > 18:04, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment About seven other middle schools with articles are also listed on Kansas City, Missouri School District should these be merged?Paste (talk) 19:09, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment - you can't generalise. Lincoln, for example, is also a high school and Central Middle School (Kansas City) has several clear claims of notability. You need to research each one individually. TerriersFan (talk) 20:04, 31 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Redirect per TerriersFan. -- Redfarmer (talk) 19:50, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Kansas City, Missouri School District as per TerriersFan. The subject is not necessarily unnotable and if someone wants to create a better article later, we shouldn't get in the way with a deletion that makes recreation harder. Noroton (talk) 19:53, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment. A cursory search seems to show several reliable sources. GoogleNews. Double Blue  (Talk) 23:51, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Deleteper nom. CRGreathouse (t | c) 02:47, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete non-notable middle school article per WP:N. Mh29255 (talk) 00:26, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep. Verifiable and NPOV. It is also clear that there are many significant articles from reliable sources from GoogleNews. Nominator is confusing editorial perceptions of importance with notability. Double Blue  (Talk) 03:27, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
 * A) News articles are only useful for notability if the school is the subject of the article, not just referenced. Honor roll articles shouldn't count. B) What I said is absolutely true - the article makes no assertion of notability.--CastAStone//(talk) 15:07, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Please do not misrepresent the news coverage, that is not helpful in the debate and hurts your credibility. There are dozens of articles with significant coverage there. Double Blue  (Talk) 19:02, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment: Please re-view the article. I have added 38 significant sources. That meets WP:N. Double Blue  (Talk) 04:04, 4 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Redirect per Terriersfan. --AndrewHowse (talk) 14:31, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I could live with that.--CastAStone//(talk) 15:07, 2 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep. From WP:N (schools), an admitted work in progress: "A school article that fails to establish notability will not be deleted, if the school can be confirmed to exist." Obvious expansion needed; this is not a reason in itself to delete article. Tanthalas39 (talk) 03:14, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
 * It then goes on to say that in that case it should be redirected...--CastAStone//(talk) 03:24, 3 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Redirect per above discussions. Vegaswikian (talk) 08:44, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep as schools tend to have a degree of notability. Best, --  Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles  Tally-ho! 17:34, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
 *  Redirect to Kansas City, Missouri School District per TerriersFan. JERRY talk contribs 00:26, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep - the page needs to be rewritten and expanded, obviously, but that is an editorial matter. User:DoubleBlue has found an amazing range of independent, verifiable, non-trivial sources that meet even the most stringent interpretation of WP:N. the page should now be kept to allow time for expansion. TerriersFan (talk) 03:46, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Redirect/Merge to Kansas City, Missouri School District because the school hasn't yet been transferred to the Independence Public School District. From what I saw of the articles I read, there isn't enough information shown to be available that indicates substantial coverage of the school from any independent sources, therefore a "Keep" doesn't seem to be appropriate. I did some searching myself through Newsbank.com and found the same thing -- the articles mention Nowlin as one of seven schools in this controversial vote that will move the schools from the KC school district to Independence. This should be a redirect/merge until it can be demonstrated that sources exist giving enough coverage (even many multiple sources with a little coverage might be good enough, but we don't really have proof that we have more than an insubstantial mention of the school in the articles included in the long bibliography on the page. Even the headlines of the articles in the bibliography raise doubts about how much information they would have. Much of the information we have now will likely be outdated after the transfer to the new school district takes place. Noroton (talk) 21:47, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak Keep The article as currently written provides reliable and verifiable sources that would establish notability, but that need to be better integrated into the article. A merge/redirect to the school district would be an appropriate option if more time is needed to allow the article to be better established as a standalone article. Alansohn (talk) 00:13, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep Article establishes notability. Hobit (talk) 03:55, 6 January 2008 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.