Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Npls spectrum

 This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion of the article below. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was delete. Joyous 18:15, Feb 26, 2005 (UTC)

Npls spectrum
This page appears to be a vanity page.

No offence, but there are literally thousands of theatre companies appearing at the Edinburgh Fringe each year, and in my opinion, to warrant an inclusion on Wikipedia, a company would need to be more notable than having received a 3-star Scotsman review and being "among the youngest" companies.

I frankly can't see why anyone unconnected to the group concerned would be interested. Sorry... Don't mean to be insulting, but I don't think it's appropriate for Wikipedia.

Cal T 19:32, 20 Feb 2005 (UTC)


 * Delete - Check the history of the page to see the major vanity revisions I took out. I contest recieving 3 stars in the Scotsman is "notable" (with all reviews being out of 5), and I've seen younger participants at the Fringe. The only way I can see this article working is as a stub, since there's nothing that notable that I can see about the company. There must be at least two dozen or more youth groups of that age or lower at the Fringe, and I've heard nothing of their work whilst working at the Fringe (2003 - 2004). Nick04 22:04, 20 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete, not notable, possible vanity. Megan1967 00:02, 21 Feb 2005 (UTC)


 * Do not delete. Firstly, declaration of interest: I made, and did almost all the updating of, this page. I am obviously biased; I do not claim not to be. However, do I think it should be deleted? No. Why? 1. There is nothing factually incorrect about the page. I am in the company, and I can tell you that the details on the page are correct. 2. Just because you have never seen us at the Fringe does not mean we have not been there; and in fact we HAVE been there, 5 times as I have said. In total, well over a thousand people have paid to come and see us, and many more have seen us singing in the streets to promote the show. 3. I accept that putting a link to this page onto the fringe page was shameless self-publication, and I apologise for that. However, with the potential for updates (which I will gladly do; indeed our next show, the blurb on the page of which has been editted out, is performing its world premiere in two months' time) I do not see the harm in letting this page be. Furthermore, the qualification for "famous" is very difficult. Are we famous? Probably, but not definitlely, not. I have been approached in the street in Edinburgh with people recognsing me. Am I a celebrity? No. Are the company worth adding to the sum of human knowledge? I do not see why not. Obviously if you all disagree go ahead and delete - wikipedia has to be a democracy. But I thought an opposing view had to be heard before the guillotine is brought out. - Batmanand


 * Thank you for expressing your view, and being polite about it. However, I'm sorry to say that I'm still going to vote delete on your article. The reason is that, as you say yourself, you are probably not famous. When you become famous, one of your fans will undoubtedly write an article about you.
 * Wikipedia is not the sum of all human knowledge, or of all verifiable fact, merely of the notable parts. For instance, the name of my neighbor's cat, while knowable and verifiable, is not very interesting to the rest of the world. What exactly qualifies as notable is up to (heavy) debate, but we have a number of consensual guidelines. And I'm afraid you fall below them. Radiant! 15:23, Feb 23, 2005 (UTC)

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