Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ntzieanhortara ridge pass


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The result was delete. Nakon 04:41, 3 June 2016 (UTC)

Ntzieanhortara ridge pass

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None of the three synonymous names listed in the article are verifiable via Google Books searches. This looks like a hoax? It was deprodded on procedural grounds, but I still don't see what could possibly save this. Joy &#91;shallot&#93; (talk) 18:12, 26 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete - I should not have deprodded this. Sorry. ~Kvng (talk) 03:45, 29 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Comment - This does not look like a hoax to me, but the article's problems are probably too great to justify keeping it. The article seems to be a direct translation of its Greek equivalent, and while "Ntzieanhortara" seems to be exactly how it should be transliterated from Greek, the name itself is fairly obviously a very awkward transcription into Greek of a non-Greek name. To add to the difficulties, both of the non-Greek sources mentioned are identifiably from the early 19th century, and I suspect that all the Greek sources are originally at least 100 years old, even where more modern reprints have been used - and most of Epirus remained under Ottoman rule until 1913. Because of this, there is a small chance that this pass is today in Albania rather than Greece - but if it is in Greece, its name has almost certainly been changed to something less obviously non-Greek. If, however, someone can chase down the sources given in the article (apart from the lack of inline citations, it is actually reasonably sourced) within the AfD period, it might be possible to identify the place's modern name and merge some of the material into a suitable article. PWilkinson (talk) 18:55, 30 May 2016 (UTC)
 * I doubt any sort of orogeny events happened in Pindus since the 1980s, which is the listed date on the newest referenced print source, that would have affected the locations or naming of mountain passes there, so I find it rather dubious that someone would write an article about one without using a name recognized by gazetteers that are searchable on the Internet. Something's very much off here. --Joy &#91;shallot&#93; (talk) 19:23, 31 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Albania-related deletion discussions. NewYorkActuary (talk) 01:20, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Greece-related deletion discussions. NewYorkActuary (talk) 01:20, 3 June 2016 (UTC)


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