Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Number One Gun


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The result was keep. Spartaz Humbug! 15:25, 15 June 2020 (UTC)

Number One Gun

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I'm not seeing anything notable about this band. All the sources in the article are either trivial coverage or personal blogs. There's no in-depth reviews or articles about in reputable sources that I can find anywhere. Let alone any indication that they have won any awards or charted anywhere that would help with notability. Except for US Christ and US Christ. Which are barely notable weekly sub charts for new artists, but aren't main charts. Even in the Christian music category. Adamant1 (talk) 06:55, 6 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 07:13, 6 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of California-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 07:13, 6 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Keep WP:MUSICBIO barely meets No. 2 (has had a single or album on any country's national music chart). They do have a bio at AllMusic, with reviews of four albums. Plenty of reviews at Jesus Freak Hideout. Walter Görlitz (talk) 15:40, 6 June 2020 (UTC)
 * It seems the notability for a lot of these really comes down to just Jesus Freak Hideout and AllMusic. Which is really questionable IMO. Especially AllMusic. Since it includes pretty much anything. It's literally called "AllMusic." So, the band having a bio on their site doesn't really mean much. The same goes for Jesus Freak Hideout. Of course they are going to have reviews of a Christian band. That's their "niche." It doesn't mean anything in relation to the band as far as the generally audience Wikipedia is suppose to cater to though. --Adamant1 (talk) 14:25, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Btw, I'm not seeing either chart you mentioned on the list of acceptable Billboard sub charts for establishing notability. --Adamant1 (talk) 15:15, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
 * While AllMusic tries to include everything, they do not review everything. There are a lot of entries that simply list the album (or band) and there's nothing else there. Sometimes, they will list an album and give it a rating, but unless there's a review, it's not considered enough to meet GNG. This group has a bio and four reviewed albums. Walter Görlitz (talk) 05:45, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Alright. If a band has reviews for 4 albums, but they are all from the same source wouldn't that still not work for notability because it's not "multiple" reliable sources? I know for something like a company, if they get repeated coverage but only from a single source or journalist it doesn't work as well (or at all depending) for notability then it would if the coverage was from different sources. --Adamant1 (talk) 06:33, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Each review stands as a source. Walter Görlitz (talk) 05:26, 11 June 2020 (UTC)
 * And they are from at least two separate reviewers: Nathaniel Schexnayder and Josh Taylor. Walter Görlitz (talk) 16:24, 11 June 2020 (UTC)
 * BTW, I wanted to mention it seems that sometimes doing a search for a topic on Google gives different or no results compared to clicking the links in the AfD template. There was an AfD for a company a few weeks ago where I didn't get any results by searching for it directly on Google Scholar but someone else got results by clicking the Google Scholar link in the template. That might have been why that one AfD went so wrong or why you found sources for albums that me and others didn't. I know it's more convenient to point fingers and place blame on a bad BEFORE or whatever though, then it is to give leeway for this being an imperfect process sometimes that not everyone always gets the same results from. --Adamant1 (talk) 12:48, 15 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Keep A slew of albums on the important label Tooth & Nail Records meets WP:MUSIC, for starters; the group charted on Billboard, for another. Allmusic doesn't have bios and reviews for everyone; if they have reviewed four albums, that's definitely substantial coverage, and JFH is an independent third-party source, as well. This group was reviewed in Alternative Press, though their archive is not complete online. Chubbles (talk) 03:25, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep as they have had charting music and have coverage in reliable sources such as Alternative Press and AllMusic, imv Atlantic306 (talk) 22:43, 11 June 2020 (UTC)


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