Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Number Permutation Systems


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The result was   delete.  Sandstein  16:07, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

Number Permutation Systems

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This is one of a flurry of short, unreferenced articles differing by only a few sentences with the same final paragraph, all about individual courses taught by someone named Charlie Banacos, a person about whom Wikipedia has no article, and with no context context within which to evaluate their notability even collectively, let alone individually.

Also nominating:

Comments:
 * Delete all as nom.  Blanchardb - Me•MyEars•MyMouth - timed 18:37, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete all original research which fails verifiability and WP:Notability. Edison (talk) 18:46, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete all per nomination (which was from my earlier PROD nomination, so I get to leave my reason at "per nomination" without expansion).—Largo Plazo (talk) 18:49, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment These articles seem to be putting the cart before the horse. An article on Charlie Banacos would seem to be the logical first step. (And a bit of googling indicates that he may well be notable, there's plenty of news hits from interviews with other artists referring to their studying with him, and terms like 'guru' do get used quite often). I'd think that the various teaching elements mentioned in these various articles could reasonably be mentioned in an article on the man himself, and only if they were independently notable then broken out. MadScot (talk) 18:53, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete all - Per nom, but no bias against recreating as redirects to a Charlie Banacos article, should one be created.  TN ‑  X   - Man  18:54, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions.   -- VG &#x260E; 09:15, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Education-related deletion discussions.   --  Fabrictramp  |  talk to me  15:12, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete All without prejudice, per Tnxman. AndyJones (talk) 17:47, 14 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete Delete all, per nom Clubmarx (talk) 03:06, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete all and put relevant info into a new article about Banacos. I and some other editors have already discussed with the original author the direction this should take, and he is already working on it. He was a newbie, and as newbie mistakes go, this was fairly minor. (BTW, I prodded some of these articles as well.) - Realkyhick (Talk to me) 05:42, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Don't you really mean merge in making the !vote you just did? If so, these pages need to be retained for GFDL reasons, although as redirects or protected redirects not as articles. AndyJones (talk) 07:59, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Note to closing admin suggest you check if any of this material gets merged before closure, and if it has been, close as a merge not a delete. I know that doesn't look like the consensus, but I think you'll agree it would accord with most of the rationales given above. AndyJones (talk) 07:59, 17 October 2008 (UTC)


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