Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nuri Kino


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   withdrawn. Wgolf has withdrawn his nomination. (non-admin closure) Biblio  worm  16:35, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

Nuri Kino

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DANG-I don't think I've seen so many tags for one article before. Not sure how notable and how accurate this is now. Wgolf (talk) 23:45, 16 February 2015 (UTC) Withdrawn
 * Comment - apart from the excessive tagging, this is an odd article - with the wide array of uncited claims, many of which were tagged in 2011 or earlier, verifiability problems raised several times on talk, and the terrible refs that are provided, this almost seems like a hoax. The subject does appear to exist though, having written at least this Huffington Post article: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/nuri-kino/genocide-100-years-ago-st_b_6511212.html Dialectric (talk) 00:06, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Surprise it has taken this long to get a afd to be honest though-it almost seems like it would of been a red flag with all those tags. Wgolf (talk) 02:38, 17 February 2015 (UTC)


 * This person exists, so I removed some excessive tags. Notable?  Unsure. Bearian (talk) 03:17, 18 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete - I don't believe this person is notable. The article has way too many uncited claims, some dating back four years! I vote for the deletion of the article. 3BluePenguins 10:39, 18 February 2015 (UTC)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 3BluePenguins (talk • contribs)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sweden-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 15:35, 18 February 2015 (UTC)
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Withdraw and, you are right afds can help articles so they don't get deleted. But I am withdrawing this now.Wgolf (talk) 20:36, 20 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep. Terrible article, but he has indeed won several major journalism awards: I was able to add references from the Swedish Wikipedia article plus one I found for a missing year. I believe that makes him notable. Searching for articles about him is hampered by all the articles online with his byline, but here is one in English, and I'll search again because I suspect there's at least one in Swedish. I intend to cut the article way down and create a brief referenced biography. Yngvadottir (talk) 21:03, 18 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment-well not sure about withdrawing yet-but the AFD probably did help this article, instead of it falling further into oblivion. Wgolf (talk) 18:29, 19 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep--who said AfD is not for article improvement? Keep: easily passes GNG. Somebody please drop a barnstar on 's talk page; she deserves one. Drmies (talk) 20:29, 20 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks . Yeah, I hear "not for improvement" all the time, but as an admin, whenever I close an AfD and I see the article is still in the same sad state, I cry a puppy's worth. I always think that AfD participation is an excellent opportunity to improve the article and say "hey! Look! Notable!". At any rate, we can't close this since there's still a nay-sayer: if 3BluePenguins were to look at it and change their mind, we could file the paperwork. Thanks for your note, Drmies (talk) 20:42, 20 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete The article has been lacking citations for a few years. In my opinion when that happens it means the claims can not be verified by a neutral source. I have tried doing the research and what I found were mostly self promotional claims and I truly don't beleive this is a notable person. Could not verify his education as listed. Read a couple online pieces written by him that were a clear indication how elementary the writing is. According to one source he apparently gave up writing for the past three years and was running a nursing home in Sweden. Nuri Kino has in one source claimed to have won a Pulitzer!  Absolutely not true. This article is very unreliable. 3BluePenguins 01:23, 21 February 2015 (UTC)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 3BluePenguins (talk • contribs)
 * You're entitled to your opinion, and I'm glad you looked again, but I wonder whether you can read Swedish or were using an online translator of some kind? One source says he went on hiatus as a journalist and worked as a caregiver while writing a book or making a film (I forget which); it doesn't say he ran the nursing home, and the source dates to a few years back; it's one of the ones I added to the article. There are various sources mentioning his receiving a big Swedish journalism prize (I documented that with the help of the Swedish Wikipedia article and the Wayback Machine); it's possible a translation program rendered that as "Pulitzer Prize", check the original. When I rewrote the article I cut out a fair bit of hagiography and repetition, and I left "citation needed" on several things that I wasn't able to document, or for which I could only find unreliable sources. Yngvadottir (talk) 19:33, 21 February 2015 (UTC)
 * The reference to "Pulitzer" was not a translation but rather from a published English source. There's no room for misinterpretation here. As for running a nursing home, that is public information in Sweden. So who is he? A journalist or caregiver? Or pizza maker (his own claim). Clearly we have a difference of opinion on the subject of this article.  3BluePenguins 09:41, 22 February 2015 (UTC)


 * Strong keep. J 1982 (talk) 10:26, 22 February 2015 (UTC) Awarded.


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