Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/O'Brian White


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. (non-admin closure) &mdash; neuro  (talk)  08:34, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

O'Brian White
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Player is a new draftee who has not yet played a professional soccer game in any league in any country, and therefore fails WP:ATHLETE and WP:FOOTYN JonBroxton (talk) 22:53, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
 * This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football related deletions. GiantSnowman 23:25, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. GiantSnowman 23:25, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep as he appears to meet general notability, as stated below GiantSnowman 18:55, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

64.231.244.157 (talk) 23:19, 11 February 2009 (UTC)-->
 * Keep Like Sam Cronin, meets the significant coverage guideline, winner of the Hermann Trophy for best college player and Soccer America Player of the Year Award in 2007. Noonehasthisnameithink (talk) 23:56, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Living people-related deletion discussions. --Erwin85Bot (talk) 00:01, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Speedy Keep - he's the number 4 2009 MLS SuperDraft. He has won several awards.  And he easily meets the general notability guideline by having significant coverage in independent reliable sources over the period of more than a year, , , and . I'm amazed that this went to AfD, given that we just went through this in Articles for deletion/Sam Cronin, and now we are doing it again for someone with more awards, and more media coverage?  Nfitz (talk) 02:23, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Speedy Keep &mdash; winner of the Soccer America Player of the Year Award and Hermann Trophy and meets WP:GNG requirements, superseding the article's need to meet any additional criteria. (switched to speedy keep after finding sources to underline notability) Sillyfolkboy (talk) 03:10, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep - appears to pass general notability guidelines even if he fails WP:ATHLETE. - fchd (talk) 06:57, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep - He is on the roster. He has a number. And he had a notable College Career. 64.231.244.157 (talk) 23:19, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep - O'Brian White has won several awards including the NCAA soccer equivalent of the Heisman (one of the most recognizable North American trophies). He has signed a professional contract, and was the #4 pick in the MLS Superdraft.  Clearly making the significant coverage guidelines. 64.231.246.9 (talk) 02:42, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
 *  Keep  - NO DICE JONBROXTON! He is on the roster. He has a number. And he had a notable College Career. I believe best NCAA soccer player > best douche editor....right?
 * Comment You really do get off on calling people names, don't you? Keep it up and I'll report you for abuse and have your IP address blocked. --JonBroxton (talk) 23:43, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Note and Comment I've hidden the above comment that JonBroxton replied to as it constitutes a plain personal attack and doesn't add to the discussion. I am also unhappy about this AFD nomination but we should keep on topic &mdash; this is about the article's notability and personal insults are both pointless and unhelpful. Sillyfolkboy (talk) 01:16, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment Personal attack retracted, and comment readded, however I would still like to point out the apparent personal vendetta some moderators seem to have against clearly notable people. 64.231.246.9 (talk) 02:42, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep... this continual "review" (read vendetta) of the players web pages is a waste of everyones time. We have gone over this previously. MVP NCAA soccer - - the soccer equivalent of football's Heisman Trophy, has played internationally for Jamaica at the U-20 level which in soccer is more highly regarded than the olympics which seems to be the bar for wiki —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.226.51.216 (talk) 01:10, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment There is no need to get upset about this AfD. The article fails WP:ATHLETE which is a bright-line test and so we fall to the general notability guidelines which are anything but bright-line tests. I agree that the sources listed by user:Nfitz appear to pass WP:N, but it's open to question and not a sign of a vendetta. Let's try to follow WP:AGF. Jogurney (talk) 03:07, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep - seems notable enough. Hogvillian (talk) 03:13, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep as meeting the WP:GNG. Hopefully he will meet WP:Athlete in the future, but is not needed.Yobmod (talk) 13:10, 12 February 2009 (UTC)


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