Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Oaks Christian High School


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep per the snowball clause (non-admin closure) EJF (talk) 21:33, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Oaks Christian High School

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AfD following declined speedy. I declined a speedy on this article. Eastmain (talk) 22:52, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Neutral. --Eastmain (talk) 22:52, 17 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Favor. Speedy request ought to be approved. The small private school is of no special importance deserving an article, the article has no references, and it is total spam--just an advertisement for the school. Evolve17 (talk) 23:07, 17 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep. I'll agree that the article is a bit self-servicing (it used to be worse!), but it also provides several claims of notability, such as its football team being ranked 6th nationally by USA Today or the attendance of school sporting events by celebrities such as Will Smith or Wayne Gretzky due to their children attending the school.  If we go by this proposed guideline, that should be sufficient to claim notability and therefore keep the article.  -- Dachannien TalkContrib 00:57, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep The USA Today ranking is good enough to indicate notability. Problems with the article can be solved through normal editing. If necessary, we can just reduce it to a stub and start over from there. Zagalejo^^^ 02:29, 18 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions.   —Eastmain (talk) 22:52, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of California-related deletion discussions.   —Eastmain (talk) 22:52, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep it's a high school, it isn't going anywhere and there appears to be enough from which to build an article. TravellingCarithe Busy Bee 03:06, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep First of all, no question at all that high schools cannot ever be spee3died for lack of notability --its part of the speedy policy, as such a deletion is always contentious. Second, when the articles are brought here, we normally keep all high school articles,because they almost always turn out to be notable in the end,and its simpler not to have to waste time discussing this. I doubt any AfD on grounds of notability has succeeded in about the last 6 or 8 months at least.
 * Keep there are lots of WP Projects (usually state-by-state) that support creating high school pages, although they are usually just stubs. But a stub is a valid article... this one can be further improved, but should be kept.--Paul McDonald (talk) 09:47, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep Some references now in the article. Could use some continued improvement & sourcing, but notable like nearly all High Schools.--Cube lurker (talk) 14:21, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep per WP:OUTCOME although as mentionned above some improvements is needed to some areas of the article. -- JForget 15:14, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: I have no problem keeping the article, but I object to the use of WP:OUTCOMES as the basis for a decision. Articles should be kept on their own notability, not because WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. CRGreathouse (t | c) 15:35, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I actually wish more people would read it. People say "It's not true that all High Schools are notable."  But when was the last one that didn't end up as a keep because it turned out that sources could be found.  IMHO no (real) high school article should end up at AFD, it should be tagged as needing improvement/references.--Cube lurker (talk) 15:42, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't mind people reading it, just people citing it as if it were a guideline. CRGreathouse (t | c) 16:00, 18 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep - high schools of that size are notable, even without nationally known football teams --T-rex 15:55, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep - specific claims of notability backed up by reliable sources to meet WP:N. TerriersFan (talk) 23:10, 18 June 2008 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.